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PAG [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 07, 2019 12:22 Messages: 16 Offline
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My apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but searches are delivering false results. The specs in the manual would suggest the answer is "no" but for the sake assuming nothing...

You Panasonic S1H owners will recognize this.

Specically want to know if PD16 or higher will support the following combination of format, codec and record quality:

Format - MOV
Codec - HEVC (H2.65)
Record Quality - [6K/24p/420/10-L] and [4K/60p/420/10-L]

Format - MOV
Codec - AVC (H.264)
Record Quality - [4K/30p/422/10-I]


Regards,

PG
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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The best answer is probably obtained if you share a clip(s) on how you exactly record and maybe a few PD16, 17, 18 users can try. No audio format or bit depth specified which can be a trip as well.

One thing for sure, PD16, 17, 18 won't create a MOV file if that's your intent, you'd have to save as H.264 and/or H.265 in a MP4, MKV, or M2TS container in 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2.

The two sample 6K S1H files here https://www.dpreview.com/videos/9281918455/dpreview-tv-panasonic-s1h-first-look do load in PD16 fine, they hit part of your specs, 6K, HEVC, MOV, 4:2:0, 10bit, 23.976fps, PCM audio

Jeff
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Quote The best answer is probably obtained if you share a clip(s) on how you exactly record and maybe a few PD16, 17, 18 users can try. No audio format or bit depth specified which can be a trip as well.

One thing for sure, PD16, 17, 18 won't create a MOV file if that's your intent, you'd have to save as H.264 and/or H.265 in a MP4, MKV, or M2TS container in 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2.

The two sample 6K S1H files here https://www.dpreview.com/videos/9281918455/dpreview-tv-panasonic-s1h-first-look do load in PD16 fine, they hit part of your specs, 6K, HEVC, MOV, 4:2:0, 10bit, 23.976fps, PCM audio

Jeff



Thanks for the reply Jeff. No video examples available from me since this is research to gauge the total-cost-of-ownership of a camera buy decision. Would love to stay with PD if possible but it needs to be able to accommodate the superb Pan S1H format/record quality capabilities.

I tried in PD16 the sample S1H clips you pointed me to. Only the 6k MOV HEVC clips were viewable. The reamining 4K clips generated an error (just the video, audio is fine). They're MOV AVC yet must be 10 bit and/or 422 that's causing the incompatibility.

So question now is what can PD18 handle relative to combinations of MOV AVC 420/422/8 bit/10 bit? The PD18 specs would suggest PD18 cannot accommodate MOV AVC 422 8 or 10 bit combinations.

Concur?


PG
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I didn't test the other 5 clips as I thought the bolding of 6K was your interest. Of the 7 clips on that site, the two 6K load in PD18, the other 5 do not.

I had also tried the 6K footage here: https://www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-lumix-s1h-full-specs-details-first-look-at-the-6k-full-frame-mirrorless/ and they all loaded in PD18 but they are all of the same specifics.

My wild guess is the 4:2:2 is causing the trip, if that's your need, PD18 appears to have issue at least currently on my platform with the initial 2028 release.

Jeff
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