Appears fine for me in a replication of your description. Just remember the rotations are not cumulative, they are total from original, so two rotations of 20 at two keyframes will do nothing.

If you still have issues use one of the sample clips and post the pds file for issue replication.

Jeff

Quote Appears fine for me in a replication of your description. Just remember the rotations are not cumulative, they are total from original, so two rotations of 20 at two keyframes will do nothing.

If you still have issues use one of the sample clips and post the pds file for issue replication.

Jeff

Thanks for you reply. I'm happy to post the PDS file, but I don't think PD is saving the info. I'm attaching a screen recorder video of my issue. You'll notice that I set the rotation for the first keyframe and when I change it for the second keyframe, it changes the first also. Same thing happens when I change the third keyframe.... all the keyframes change.

Thanks,
Rich

Try this. Clear all keyframes, move the scrubber to the start and set the rotation to 0. Move the scrubber to the end and set the rotation to 1800 (5 full rotations). Return the scrubber to the beginning and click Play.

Next. drag the end keyframe to the 1 second mark, then right click at the 4 second mark and choose Duplicate previous keyframe. Finally, go to the end and place a new keyframe with the rotation set to 3600 (or 0 to rotate back in the opposite rotation) direction.

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RichLux, adjust your rotations in "Properites" tab "Object Settings" in the "Rotation" are not the "Motion" tab that you are in. I think it will make more sense for you and the values you have defined at your existing keypoints will have values.

Jeff

I'm going to take that back. Everything works properly if I use the Rotation keyframes under Properties > Object Settings:



But the Rotation Settings on the Motion tab (which your screen captures shows) are completely ineffective. I've never even seen that setting before, so I'll do some experimenting and see whay I can come up with.

In the meantime, use the keyframes under the Properties tab like JL_JL has also suggested.

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So the short answer is the Rotation Settings on the Motion tab is a single setting that afffects the object over the full duration of the motion path you've selected. End of story. That also means it's not the right tool when you want to do different sets of rotations!

It's also quite confusing, because choosing a path automatically sets position keyframes, but the rotation setting ignores or overwrites the keyframes set under the properties tab

Try this: Chose a new path from the Motion tab, then set the rotation keyframes under the Properties tab as explained in my earlier post. Don't use the setting you tried to use the first time. That combination (using the ease-in and ease-out options) will give you this result:



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Quote RichLux, adjust your rotations in "Properites" tab "Object Settings" in the "Rotation" are not the "Motion" tab that you are in. I think it will make more sense for you and the values you have defined at your existing keypoints will have values.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff! That worked. So, do you know what the Rotation setting in the Motion tab would be used for?

Rich

Quote I'm going to take that back. Everything works properly if I use the Rotation keyframes under Properties > Object Settings:

But the Rotation Settings on the Motion tab (which your screen captures shows) are completely ineffective. I've never even seen that setting before, so I'll do some experimenting and see whay I can come up with.

In the meantime, use the keyframes under the Properties tab like JL_JL has also suggested.

Yup. I did what Jeff suggested and it worked. I think Cyberlink should remove the Rotation setting from the Motion tab becuase it just messes things up.

Rich

Quote Thanks Jeff! That worked. So, do you know what the Rotation setting in the Motion tab would be used for?

Seems like it still has value, keep in mind, at one time there was no keyframe rotation in PIP, just in the motion tab. To me it's still a easy way, or another way, to prescribe a rotation as the object moves across the screen. Regardless of what motion, what path, added path keypoints, it goes through that prescribed rotation start to finish.

Jeff

We've been here before, probably more times than I can remember.

Wherever the keyframes are added, they can also be set in Keyframes (not in PiP Designer) - so there are different ways to get the same result.

Cheers - Tony
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