I have found a solution but it was quite by accident. I am surprised it was so difficult to find.
There is a free download of "Power2Go 12 Essentials". The download comes with a 15 day trial of the premium product, but the essentials has the basic function I need to just copy a disc.
https://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/power2go-platinum/download_en_US.html
This version 12 worked like a charm the first time. It copied the disc to a temp location on my laptop, and then asked for the second disc. It then copied to the second disc without any problems. It did not take very long. The entire process was less than an hour.j
Hope this helps someone else that just needs some of the basic free functions.