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Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Give me a break, I take out the pip that was causing the trouble and put it in the timeline minus the pip edit and render the video using the Youtube option..... I was using a youtube setting that I had created in the profiles. I know I know I changed it to a different resolution and size from the default settings but.......I then get all the way to the end of the a 1.3gig render successfully.......then PD says "Can't upload video to youtube"

Not only that it did not save the 1.3gig version anywhere I can find. So I can't even upload it manually.

EDIT====I found it, PD said it was rendering it to Produce 10 but actually saved it as Produce 9???

1. PD rendered the pip included video fine using Mpeg2 and M2ts successfully but not .wmv.

2. Youtube will not play back my m2ts videos properly. The audio chokes after about 5 seconds of replay. Vimeo won't even accept m2ts so there must be a problem with the format.

3. The Mpeg2 video uploading to youtube is giving me trouble.

4. I am going to try once more and render the video to .wmv which is the format PD is using for youtube anyway and see if I can manually upload it.

EDIT====I didn't have to render again as i found thr video so I am now in the process of uploading the .wmv video to youtube......wish me luck, I think I need it.

I tell you it better be worth it when Cyberlink fixes the i7 cpu and transition problems.

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My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Well I finally got my video uploaded successfully to youtube.

1. It appears that youtube will not accept large high bitrate videos. The worse thing though, unlike PD (thank you PD) which tells you at the beginning of the upload, youtube tells you after you have uploaded a 1.1gig video.

2. This is a video processed at default .wmv standard quality 1280X720. It looks as though I am going to have to render my videos twice, once for the web and once for archiving.

3. The problem PD had with the transition is in the video where I go to X-Ray effect, when I had it in the PIP track where I took out the vignetting. Deleting the pip track and just putting the video in the timeline allowed PD to render the video properly.

Anyway enough of my musings here is the video. It is not exactly how I would like it but I just needed to get it out there. enjoy. You may notice a circular rainbow....who knew they even existed, you can imagine my surprise when I looked down and saw it for the first time. It is called in the hang gliding community a personal glory because it forms around your own shadow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiJe8sWPJro

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Quote: 3. When I re-opened PD the render failed with the old "out of system memory" fault again. I tried this twice and it failed at the same place. I checked the video left after the crash and it failed at a transition AGAIN!!!!
Unfortunately this looks to be a huge issue for ALL video editing software programs as they struggle with multiple layered video files, with users adding effects, corrective measures and general editing. H264 1080i/p swallows memory by the bucket and the more feature changes you make the less you have in processing memory available to you.

The answer might be shorter section editing changes and compilation creating at the end.

I realise this isn't a helpful post - a moment of thought only.

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Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Thanks Dafydd for your input and it may help laying down my transition effects at the end of my editing process, just before I render.

Although as I mentioned in a previous post I have an LCD screen on my keyboard which shows cpu and ram usage and even during rendering my memory usage never gets above 60-70%. Not that I know enough about computers but I would have thought if it was a memory problem it would crash when I am closer to using it all not with 900mb-1.2gb of ram still free. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
Peter Ozpeter [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Aug 10, 2008 20:51 Messages: 336 Offline
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PowerDirector does seem to be remarkably frugal in its memory use, though I guess there are limits.

For monitoring memory, CPU and disk, Bmem is your friend - http://badmofo.org/bmem/ - all my PCs have that installed before anything!

Also the DPC latency checker from http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml is another essential system checking tool.
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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I checked out the Bmem tool and is shows the same information as my keyboard LCD plus it shows virtual ram on the hard drive. The only problem is it does not show the 8 cores of my i7 cpu, it shows them as one single core.

EDIT=====Interestingly the CPU usage goes up over 100% when more of the cores are being used. I just hit 125% cpu usage when I opened up PD and opened a project. Looks as though it needs a code rewrite, I didn't know you could use more than 100% of anything.

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Peter Ozpeter [Avatar]
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Right click on the Bmem display for settings, Robert, which here at least on a 4 core system enables me to display the separate cores.
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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I don't have a display option on mine but under "About" it says one physical cpu and 8 virtual cpus My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
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Did you ever find a fix for "freezing transitions" Robert? I have an i7 980X CPU with 12 cores. I am having the same problem
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Hi Elwood,

WOW I had forgotten about the work I did with this.

To summarise things since this thread. I am not having half the problems I was having back then, which is a good thing.

1. I have upgraded to a 64 bit operating system, Win7. This lets PD use more than 2gig of ram where a 32 bit system only allows any one program to use a max of 2gig no matter how much ram is in your computer. I have not had to use the i7 2 cores workaround for a while, so I don't know if the latest build has fixed that or moving to Win 7 64 bit has fixed that.


2. I am using the latest build of PD.

3. I did strike a problem with my last video a week or so ago which was fixed by putting in a fade transition in the offending pip track.

Bottom line PD is still having problems with transitions, my suggestion is to either take out the transition, move the clip to a different place on the timeline if possible or change the type of transition.

You know PD does everything I want or need and having tried just about every other editing program out there they all have their different problems, even the ones costing $800 so I am sticking with PD and just work around the transition problem.

Cheers

Robert My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
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