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I find that whichever 'room' you're in it is easiest to select the "downloaded" heading for such items. Then it's more obvious as you are only looking at the ones that have been downloaded.
Yep they are in the rooms. I was looking for them in 'create disk/menu preferences'.
Now have to re-remember how to apply the template to the menu- a little confused at this point. Back to the manual.
So much to learn so little time especially once you are retired.
Alan