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Nick [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 08, 2009 23:28 Messages: 1 Offline
[Post New] Feb 08, 2009 23:32
I just bought a Canon HF100 and will be getting a new computer soon to handle the format. I will also need some video editing software. I want to record in HD, edit in HD and then burn 1080 to standard dvd to view on PS3 with little to no degradation and with good system / software performance and stability. I know this is a PowerDirector forum, but I am hoping to get honest answers to a few questions.

1. Are there big stability differences between Premiere 7, PowerDirector 7, Pinnacle Studio 12, Vegas or corel VideoStudio Pro X2?
2. I have read that all of these tools require lots of horsepower to avoid crashing, studdering, extreme slowness, etc. Do you recommend more horsepower than the following components?
i7-920 2.66GHz
4GB DDR3 SDRAM
640GB SATA (7200 rpm)
512MB ATI RADEON HD 4850
3. What have you found to be the advantages of PowerDirector 7 over the other options I provided?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Feb 08. 2009 23:56

pjc
Senior Member Location: Aus Joined: Sep 12, 2008 03:48 Messages: 262 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 02:54
Hi Nick,

I own (or have owned) all but Premiere 7 (my last version of Premiere was 6).
Unfortunately for you no solution is "the best"

Without getting the topic locked by talking about the virtues of the other editors, Powerdirector is probably the best for AVCHD editing at the moment if you take into balance features, stability and ease of use. However search AVCHD on this forum and have a read about AVCHD rendering. My workflow is to render to MPEG2 1080i due to the problems. We are hopeful that Dafydd (Mod) is onto it for us and we might get some action on the AVCHD rendering front soon.
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 04:05
AVCHD is a compressed format. As on date all the editors which you have listed have trouble editing AVCHD.
pjc 's post shall also be noted. PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

pjc
Senior Member Location: Aus Joined: Sep 12, 2008 03:48 Messages: 262 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 05:55
Quote: As on date all the editors which you have listed have trouble editing AVCHD.
pjc 's post shall also be noted.


PD7 doesn't have trouble editing AVCHD - it goes it very well. Rendering is another story.
One caveat though - I agree with others that if the project gets too big it becomes a little unstable. I limit to about 30 mins for each section and have no problems.

AVCHD is a compressed format

So is just about every other format.
James W
Senior Contributor Location: Lakeland, FL USA Joined: Aug 18, 2008 10:36 Messages: 911 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 07:55
I also have no problems editing AVCHD format. I'm using a Cannon HG20 so I would expect your experience to be similar to mine. Typically I record using the 17 mbps mode using 24p (I have not tried the 60i settings). I do all my editing and normally I will render my project using the MPEG2 BD format. In my case I do not notice any loss of quality.

Do not even bother rendering in MPEG4 format. I tried rendering with my CPU (C2 Quad 9300) as well as with CUDA with my 9500 GT video card (it did cut the time in half), but the quality in both cases was significantly worse then MPEG2 BD format.

As for smart video rendering technology (SVRT) is currently does not work properly with AVCHD format. Many posts on this.

Good luck.

By the way, your computer specs are more than adequate.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at Feb 09. 2009 08:00

Q9300 2.5 GHz
4 GB Ram
Nvidia 9800 GT
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 09:34
Thanks for the reply pjc. IF the project size becomes more than 30 minutes and if PD7 becomes unstable then my statement stands valid.
Secondly not all formats are compressed, AVI is not.
Cheers ! anyway PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

pjc
Senior Member Location: Aus Joined: Sep 12, 2008 03:48 Messages: 262 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 13:38
Quote:
Secondly not all formats are compressed, AVI is not.
Cheers ! anyway


Without being pedantic, AVI is not a compression format but rather a container format and be used for several types of video formats. Most are compressed. Even DV type 1 & 2 are compressed.
Herbert10 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 04, 2008 15:27 Messages: 9 Offline
[Post New] Feb 09, 2009 14:45
Editing AVCHD in PD7 is fine compared to most of the other products, but be aware, that the available output formats/options is the weak point compared to the competitors. E.g.
* in avi you can select no interesting codecs
* in DivX mp3 is only support under XP and even then with limited bitrate

Herbert
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