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8mm to Editor with quality
waynegman
Newbie Location: Eastcoast USA Joined: Nov 09, 2006 23:59 Messages: 21 Offline
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Like many I have the shelf of old 8mm tapes that need to be imported to the computer without the direct firewire way of getting it into the computer/editor from the camera.

I've looked at video Xpres DX2 around $80 and I've read disturbing things about the quality. I've been reading on the web about

Canopus ADVC-110 (77010150100) Video Capture. $225 Seems better maybe??? Anyone got it and an opinion?

I don't think I care about creating a dvd or just a stream of data into the PC over a usb or firewire. What I want is to get the best transfer of quality that I can reasonably pull off for home uses.

To round out the discussion my subject is Class 5 kayaking. Massive Drops up to around 50 feet and Huge beatdowns by the water. Some of the beatdowns need to be imported for an instructional video for class 5 creek kayaking yet to be published. I'd like to import the 8mm stuff in as best quality that a non-Pro can reasonably afford. If anyone has suggestions on capture applications to use with this editor other than Canopus or Xpres I'd really appreciate it.
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CC [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Nov 21, 2006 14:42 Messages: 32 Offline
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Hi wayne,
I've known lots of folks who actually rent a Phillips (i think) device which reads in your VHS tape and writes it to a DVD. From there, you could rip off the DVD and edit it to suit. The idea of renting a device is nice because you wont need that device forever. IF you cant find one to rent, buy one and then resell it !

I also have used Pinnacle studio with the optional input device for connecting a VCR and reading in your tapes. If you feel like doing that, it's a few hundred $ I am pretty sure unless the prices have come down. check that out.

That's all my experience so far. good luck!
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Barry
Senior Member Location: N Attleboro, MA Joined: Jul 13, 2006 19:57 Messages: 295 Offline
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I do my transfers with my dvcamcorder. I have a Canon Elura 100 and I use it as a pass thru. I needed a newer camera anyway. Join/SignUp to SeeMyWorldOnVideo. We're PowerDirector Video Editors. Are you a member? - JOIN TODAY!
RobertJ/OZ [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne Australia Joined: Aug 14, 2006 02:26 Messages: 1209 Offline
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I'm with you Barry, I have an old Canovision E60, I connect it to my Canon MVX330i and transfer via MiniDV or memory card.

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CC [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Nov 21, 2006 14:42 Messages: 32 Offline
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Ahh the ol' Can-OH-vision ! I had one of those. Loved it. Used it for many years.

have a great day everyone,

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waynegman
Newbie Location: Eastcoast USA Joined: Nov 09, 2006 23:59 Messages: 21 Offline
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I wish I had one of these old cameras. I went out to buy a mini DV camera in August and looked at least a Dozen at Circuit City and Walmart. None of these cameras now have RCA or any input for a pass through or record to MiniDV tape possibilities. You just can't easily find a camera that will accept a signal from the old VHS or 8mm. I was shocked as every camera before now had that feature. I'd buy another new mini DV camera if I could find the feature.

So I'm hoping that someone that is really demanding for quality would post what analog to digital transfer hardware worked well for them.
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Barry
Senior Member Location: N Attleboro, MA Joined: Jul 13, 2006 19:57 Messages: 295 Offline
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Wayne,
Go to Circuit City and look at the Canon Elura 100, to the right of the eye piece there is a tiny plastic cover labeled: Mic AV
The AV is the pass thru. With the correct cable, it will connect to RCA.
I've even used it to transfer a VHS to Digital. It's not the cheapest solution, but you'll have a new camera. Or try a less expensive model. Or borrow! Join/SignUp to SeeMyWorldOnVideo. We're PowerDirector Video Editors. Are you a member? - JOIN TODAY!
waynegman
Newbie Location: Eastcoast USA Joined: Nov 09, 2006 23:59 Messages: 21 Offline
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I'll check out the canon.

Nobody uses a hardware device? I thought someone would have used a specialized device for better transfer quality.

Hey Mr Moderator.... how about a PM you must have some info and you just don't want to post out global ad?
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Quote: I'll check out the canon.

Nobody uses a hardware device? I thought someone would have used a specialized device for better transfer quality.

Hey Mr Moderator.... how about a PM you must have some info and you just don't want to post out global ad?

Hi,
As I'm a moderator...are you asking me to participate? Sure I have captured from a VHS tape/VCR, analogue camera through RCA connections and can still do it. I actual must get around to transferring some VHS to disc.

Specialized device... I don't use one, I wasn't impressed with the need to have one.

I have been contacted by a friend yesterday who's doing just what you are etc etc and is inputing through a Dazzle device linked to a USB port. There are quite a few of these types of "boxes" around. He used PowerDirector as the capture and editing software but had problems which he resolved after a little while (green screen and audio issues).

Basically, all you're doing is inputting an analogue signal into your computer. RCA cables connecting a VCR or camera to a computer. PowerDirector then finds the input device and you capture through the software. Now an analogue TV card will give you the input - the quality of the video wont be better than VCD. These "boxes" just replace the PCI device and enable a USB plug in and gives power. You will still get frame dropping and audio out of sync. That's the nature of the video....*%$"(*&!

This isn't really hard to master - not a big deal

Is that what you wanted?

Dafydd
waynegman
Newbie Location: Eastcoast USA Joined: Nov 09, 2006 23:59 Messages: 21 Offline
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Dafydd and everyone's post,

I guess I expected that there was dedicated piece of hardware that really did the job better than a camcorder. I thought a member on this forum would know some info about a better way. I've used a camcorder pass through a couple years ago from a friend. That camera broke so the option of the Canon camera is probably where I will head.

Thanks for eveyones post.

I'm having problems with a communication error preventing a write a dvd all of a sudden and I'll likely lean on you guys for that after I work it a bit more.

Wayne Shooting the Video and the Rapids 2011
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