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rata27 [Avatar]
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hello,

I have made a video from my mpeg files - now it lenght is 2 hours and 20 min.

I must to burn it to a dvd, but it final size is 12 GB.

I even try to use the auto fit but it still does not compress it for 1 DVD

is there any way to burn it at one DVD 4.7 GB ?

10X rata
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Quote hello,

I have made a video from my mpeg files - now it lenght is 2 hours and 20 min.

I must to burn it to a dvd, but it final size is 12 GB.

I even try to use the auto fit but it still does not compress it for 1 DVD

is there any way to burn it at one DVD 4.7 GB ?

10X




What are the resolutions of the mpeg files you recorded? You may be rendering them incorrectly or with settings you do not need.

It has be fit within that amount of storage space. Unless you get it around 8gb and use a DVD+DL if whatever you're playing the DVD on supports those dvd types.
rata27 [Avatar]
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Quote hello,

I have made a video from my mpeg files - now it lenght is 2 hours and 20 min.

I must to burn it to a dvd, but it final size is 12 GB.

I even try to use the auto fit but it still does not compress it for 1 DVD

is there any way to burn it at one DVD 4.7 GB ?

10X




What are the resolutions of the mpeg files you recorded? You may be rendering them incorrectly or with settings you do not need.

It has be fit within that amount of storage space. Unless you get it around 8gb and use a DVD+DL if whatever you're playing the DVD on supports those dvd types.




Hi

My video recorder files are *.mod (HDD panasonic cam)

the output files type are MPEG-2 704*577 at 25 FPS PAL, bitrate = 9.338 kb/s



I have try to prduce it to MPEG-2 FILE 720*480/24P / 8Mbps - that the best match to produce the video for its size.

but still the final size is 8.7GB !!!!!! it is too high!!!

I am sure I neet to set somtiong different - can sombody help ? rata
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Quote hello,

I have made a video from my mpeg files - now it lenght is 2 hours and 20 min.

I must to burn it to a dvd, but it final size is 12 GB.

I even try to use the auto fit but it still does not compress it for 1 DVD

is there any way to burn it at one DVD 4.7 GB ?

10X




What are the resolutions of the mpeg files you recorded? You may be rendering them incorrectly or with settings you do not need.

It has be fit within that amount of storage space. Unless you get it around 8gb and use a DVD+DL if whatever you're playing the DVD on supports those dvd types.




Hi

My video recorder files are *.mod (HDD panasonic cam)

the output files type are MPEG-2 704*577 at 25 FPS PAL, bitrate = 9.338 kb/s



I have try to prduce it to MPEG-2 FILE 720*480/24P / 8Mbps - that the best match to produce the video for its size.

but still the final size is 8.7GB !!!!!! it is too high!!!

I am sure I neet to set somtiong different - can sombody help ?


This is the very reason I've retained Power Director 8 Ultra! A 2 Hr., 20 min video CAN be made to fit a 4.7 Gb DVD but first it must be rendered to MPEG2, DVD-SP, and this is where the older version of PD comes into its own. PD8 Ultra can render files and burn DVDs at DVD-SP grade, picture quality won't please the purists but at least a DVD+R or -R disc will play on many domestic players.(it should be noted that not all domestic players will accept DVD-R or +R DL discs, compatibility IS a consideration here) This is PD14s, and likely also PD15s fall-down point, they'll only burn at DVD-SP if the image is 4:3 aspect ratio. This was a disappointment to me when I saw it in PD14. and I was glad to see I didn't have to uninstall PD8 as the older version still had its uses, and burning long videos to 4.7Gb discs is certainly one of those uses!
rata27 [Avatar]
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Quote hello,

I have made a video from my mpeg files - now it lenght is 2 hours and 20 min.

I must to burn it to a dvd, but it final size is 12 GB.

I even try to use the auto fit but it still does not compress it for 1 DVD

is there any way to burn it at one DVD 4.7 GB ?

10X




What are the resolutions of the mpeg files you recorded? You may be rendering them incorrectly or with settings you do not need.

It has be fit within that amount of storage space. Unless you get it around 8gb and use a DVD+DL if whatever you're playing the DVD on supports those dvd types.




Hi

My video recorder files are *.mod (HDD panasonic cam)

the output files type are MPEG-2 704*577 at 25 FPS PAL, bitrate = 9.338 kb/s



I have try to prduce it to MPEG-2 FILE 720*480/24P / 8Mbps - that the best match to produce the video for its size.

but still the final size is 8.7GB !!!!!! it is too high!!!

I am sure I neet to set somtiong different - can sombody help ?


This is the very reason I've retained Power Director 8 Ultra! A 2 Hr., 20 min video CAN be made to fit a 4.7 Gb DVD but first it must be rendered to MPEG2, DVD-SP, and this is where the older version of PD comes into its own. PD8 Ultra can render files and burn DVDs at DVD-SP grade, picture quality won't please the purists but at least a DVD+R or -R disc will play on many domestic players.(it should be noted that not all domestic players will accept DVD-R or +R DL discs, compatibility IS a consideration here) This is PD14s, and likely also PD15s fall-down point, they'll only burn at DVD-SP if the image is 4:3 aspect ratio. This was a disappointment to me when I saw it in PD14. and I was glad to see I didn't have to uninstall PD8 as the older version still had its uses, and burning long videos to 4.7Gb discs is certainly one of those uses!






So..... this means it a DEAD END ???

I dont have earlier PD version

I have worked and edit this video for more then 6 hours.....



there must be any solution for this issue... rata
stevek
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Have you tried a double (or dual layer) DVD?

Look at Cyberlink's Power2Go to do the compression. If it is only this one project, then the limited time free trial of the Platinum version might be somehting to try. .
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There are other methods that you can use to put it all on one dvd. Are the aspect ratio of those original files 4:3 or 16:9?
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Quote Have you tried a double (or dual layer) DVD?

Look at Cyberlink's Power2Go to do the compression. If it is only this one project, then the limited time free trial of the Platinum version might be somehting to try.


I think a DVD+/-R DL (that's + or - ) holds about 9.5 Gb. If the final size is 8.7 Gb, this gives you 800Mb(0.8 Gb) of leeway. Just a recap though, not all domestic DVD players can cope with home-burn dual-layer DVDs, though they'll happily play commercially made discs. With that said, you might try to burn to a dual-layer disc, just don't be too disappointed if the resultand disc doesn't play on that DVD player in your loungeroom, though if you have a Blu-Ray player, you may be able to play your DL DVD on that type of device instead.
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Neil, double-layer DVDs can hold 8.5GB of data.

PowerDirector 8 is no longer sold, it is pointless to bring this up post after post, you can PM members with that information if it is that urgent to you. See PM from me to you!
Why can't Smartfit be used with a double-layer DVD?

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Quote There are other methods that you can use to put it all on one dvd. Are the aspect ratio of those original files 4:3 or 16:9?




16:9 rata
rata27 [Avatar]
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Quote Neil, double-layer DVDs can hold 8.5GB of data.

PowerDirector 8 is no longer sold, it is pointless to bring this up post after post, you can PM members with that information if it is that urgent to you. See PM from me to you!
Why can't Smartfit be used with a double-layer DVD?


Hi

I try to burn it to standrd 4.7DVD (not double-layer DVD) - it seam to be not easy as 1 2 3.cry

Is there any differnt way or format I can decode it for DVD format ? rata
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Quote Neil, double-layer DVDs can hold 8.5GB of data.

PowerDirector 8 is no longer sold, it is pointless to bring this up post after post, you can PM members with that information if it is that urgent to you. See PM from me to you!
Why can't Smartfit be used with a double-layer DVD?


Hi

I try to burn it to standrd 4.7DVD (not double-layer DVD) - it seam to be not easy as 1 2 3.cry

Is there any differnt way or format I can decode it for DVD format ?


I was guessing at the DVD DL capacity, I thought it might've been higher than what you've shown. As for Smart-Fit, have you tried it with a dual-Layer disc, Barry? If I ever have the need to store a video on a DL disc, I'd like to know if Smart-Fit will work, for future reference. And yes, PD8 is no longer sold in places like Amazon, but there may be some second-hand shops that have some old superceded software in stock. Our OP writer wanted to get his/her file size down to such that he/she could get it on to a DVD(initially wanted it on single layer) but his/her final file size is still to large, even for Dual-Layer, and even Smart-Fit would be hard-put to shoe-horn an 8.7Gb file into 8.5 Gb. A third render may bring the file size down some more but image quality may suffer. Rata27, if you're prepared to risk that third render, you may squeeze your video onto a dual-layer disc, but again, you'll be possibly sacrificing image quality.
BarryTheCrab
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Our OP writer wanted to get his/her file size down to such that he/she could get it on to a DVD(initially wanted it on single layer) but his/her final file size is still to large, even for Dual-Layer, and even Smart-Fit would be hard-put to shoe-horn an 8.7Gb file into 8.5 Gb. A third render may bring the file size down some more but image quality may suffer. Rata27, if you're prepared to risk that third render, you may squeeze your video onto a dual-layer disc, but again, you'll be possibly sacrificing image quality.
NO NO NO! Horrible advice. You can render and re-render till the end of time, it has ZERO affect here. You can render it down to 10kb if you want but the time of the video is still 2 hours and 20 minutes, THAT's the issue. Smartfit the video onto a disc of choice and see if it plays, and if so is the quality is acceptable. Buy rewritable DVD, DVD-DL and BlueRay media for testing, dirt cheap. And .2GB is not really "shoehorning" anything. It's EXACTLY what Smartfit is designed for.

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Our OP writer wanted to get his/her file size down to such that he/she could get it on to a DVD(initially wanted it on single layer) but his/her final file size is still to large, even for Dual-Layer, and even Smart-Fit would be hard-put to shoe-horn an 8.7Gb file into 8.5 Gb. A third render may bring the file size down some more but image quality may suffer. Rata27, if you're prepared to risk that third render, you may squeeze your video onto a dual-layer disc, but again, you'll be possibly sacrificing image quality.
NO NO NO! Horrible advice. You can render and re-render till the end of time, it has ZERO affect here. You can render it down to 10kb if you want but the time of the video is still 2 hours and 20 minutes, THAT's the issue. Smartfit the video onto a disc of choice and see if it plays, and if so is the quality is acceptable. Buy rewritable DVD, DVD-DL and BlueRay media for testing, dirt cheap. And .2GB is not really "shoehorning" anything. It's EXACTLY what Smartfit is designed for.


If it's bad advice, Barry, it's only learned from reading other posts on the same or similar subjects, no more, no less.
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Our OP writer wanted to get his/her file size down to such that he/she could get it on to a DVD(initially wanted it on single layer) but his/her final file size is still to large, even for Dual-Layer, and even Smart-Fit would be hard-put to shoe-horn an 8.7Gb file into 8.5 Gb. A third render may bring the file size down some more but image quality may suffer. Rata27, if you're prepared to risk that third render, you may squeeze your video onto a dual-layer disc, but again, you'll be possibly sacrificing image quality.
NO NO NO! Horrible advice. You can render and re-render till the end of time, it has ZERO affect here. You can render it down to 10kb if you want but the time of the video is still 2 hours and 20 minutes, THAT's the issue. Smartfit the video onto a disc of choice and see if it plays, and if so is the quality is acceptable. Buy rewritable DVD, DVD-DL and BlueRay media for testing, dirt cheap. And .2GB is not really "shoehorning" anything. It's EXACTLY what Smartfit is designed for.


If it's bad advice, Barry, it's only learned from reading other posts on the same or similar subjects, no more, no less.


Thant you all for your advises.

I want to spreead some more information about my steps:


  1. the video output from the cam is MPEG-2 704*577 at 25 FPS PAL, bitrate = 9.338 kb/s 16:9.

  2. my PD product is 29.9 FPS - I dont know is this effects on the size.

  3. burn the project to 4.7 DVD it gain the size to 11GB. using smartfit will make a 7GB DVD

  4. when try to produce it to MPEG-2 DVD type - the only available size are 720*480 - this make the file to be 8.7 GB

  5. 5. I have tried to produce the video at PD15 to mp4 - the video quality is great and it size is 3.3GB. then I burn it to a DVD with third render, the size is overload for 4.7GB DVD, so I choose fit to 4.7 DVD. Finally the video quality decreases (no so bad) - but and big BUT - the video is not smooth this solution not work fine!

  6. I must to burn the video on 4.7GB DVD - need to make 30 copies of the video.


any more ideas ??? rata
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Everyone else has posted something more to help you than I could, and I am late to reply now, but good luck! The others should solve your DVD compression issues.
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Our OP writer wanted to get his/her file size down to such that he/she could get it on to a DVD(initially wanted it on single layer) but his/her final file size is still to large, even for Dual-Layer, and even Smart-Fit would be hard-put to shoe-horn an 8.7Gb file into 8.5 Gb. A third render may bring the file size down some more but image quality may suffer. Rata27, if you're prepared to risk that third render, you may squeeze your video onto a dual-layer disc, but again, you'll be possibly sacrificing image quality.
NO NO NO! Horrible advice. You can render and re-render till the end of time, it has ZERO affect here. You can render it down to 10kb if you want but the time of the video is still 2 hours and 20 minutes, THAT's the issue. Smartfit the video onto a disc of choice and see if it plays, and if so is the quality is acceptable. Buy rewritable DVD, DVD-DL and BlueRay media for testing, dirt cheap. And .2GB is not really "shoehorning" anything. It's EXACTLY what Smartfit is designed for.


If it's bad advice, Barry, it's only learned from reading other posts on the same or similar subjects, no more, no less.


Thant you all for your advises.

I want to spreead some more information about my steps:


  1. the video output from the cam is MPEG-2 704*577 at 25 FPS PAL, bitrate = 9.338 kb/s 16:9.

  2. my PD product is 29.9 FPS - I dont know is this effects on the size.

  3. burn the project to 4.7 DVD it gain the size to 11GB. using smartfit will make a 7GB DVD

  4. when try to produce it to MPEG-2 DVD type - the only available size are 720*480 - this make the file to be 8.7 GB

  5. 5. I have tried to produce the video at PD15 to mp4 - the video quality is great and it size is 3.3GB. then I burn it to a DVD with third render, the size is overload for 4.7GB DVD, so I choose fit to 4.7 DVD. Finally the video quality decreases (no so bad) - but and big BUT - the video is not smooth this solution not work fine!

  6. I must to burn the video on 4.7GB DVD - need to make 30 copies of the video.


any more ideas ???


Frame rate might have an effect on file size but I can't be certain. but the extra info provided here may go a long way toward helping to solve your problem. For now though, I might leave this one in more capable hands.

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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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I have not mentioned it, but I did notice you are using NTSC with PAL media. That may affect smooth output, but that's all I will say about that. As I see this disc problem you have a few choices.




  1. Use 1 DVD with Smartfit.

  2. Use 2 DVDs.

  3. Use Double-layer DVD with Smartfit.

  4. Use BlueRay.

  5. Render your video and put it on DROPBOX and distribute it that way. This lacks a menu.

  6. Get a deal on USB sticks and distribute it that way. This lacks a menu.


These methods all have good and bad points. It's just that 2+ hours of video is a lot of video.

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stevek
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Good summary. .
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Something was missing here, it dawned on me if no menu is desired then perhaps a DATA disc in place of a VIDEO DVD. The disc could be played in a computer optical drive but not most TV DVD-BR players optical drive (if any at all, research later). It's hard to go over every option but the same DATA file could go on a thumbdrive. I'm possibly confusing the OP now. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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