Produce to a File Question

Tazz

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Oct 13, 2016 00:29

Hello,

I have a quick question that I hope I can get some assistance with, and I thank you in advance if you can help.

I have a project I have completed, fairly large, 50 chapters, 2 hours and ten minute show. I learned the other day (from here) that it's much better to produce my project to a file on my computer, and then import that saved file into a timeline, THEN add my chapter markers and finally burn to a dvd. I know that the final burn has to be MPEG-2 to work/play on DVD players.

My question is, what format should I produce the project I'm sending to my computer as, to get the best quality possible upon importing it back onto a timeline. Do I also produce this as an MPEG-2, or is there a better choice? Somewhere in my "not so expert" mind, I'm thinking I can export at a better quality than I could to a dvd, due to lack of size constraints via a computer file as opposed to a disk, but I might be wrong!? I thought I was wrong once before, but I was mistaken

I saw this answered somewhere here the other day, but I searched and could not find it, of course now that I need it!

Thank you again for any help. Hopefully you understand what I attempted to explain up there!

Tazz

I am currently using PD13 Ultimate

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Longedge

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Oct 13, 2016 05:15

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Tazz

Newbie Joined: Oct 03, 2014 23:16 Messages: 28 Offline

Oct 13, 2016 10:30

Quote: What is your original footage i.e. resolution, frame rate, file type etc. If you edit and then produce to files that are the same as your original then you'll have the best source material for your final DVD's and they will probably be rendered quicker as well (less work for PD). As you say, your final DVD's will be standard mpeg2 .VOB's by default. The one thing to avoid if at all possible is upscaling.

Hi Longedge,

Thank you for your response. Specs of my original recording are: 1920x1080, 21251 kbps (data rate), 21635 kbps (total bitrate), 29 fps (frame rate)...One of the options in PD is MPEG-2, 1920x1080/60i, 25mbps. Would that be my best bet? Based on what you said, I'm assuming yes?

Thank you again for your expertise and assistance.

Tazz

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Longedge

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Oct 13, 2016 12:10

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CS2014

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Oct 13, 2016 13:41

Might be a good idea to get a DVD-RW disc and try producing at different settings to see which one/s work - that is, play back on your target DVD player?!?!

Then you will know what produce setting to use.

But like Longedge said - usually the source clips characteristics... the source clips 'settings' are the setting you should use for the produced project.... usually - but it has to 'play' correctly on whatever targeted player you are going to use... obviously.

CS

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James Dotson

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Oct 13, 2016 23:28

MPEG 2 720x480. Bitrate about 8 Mbps. It may be labeled DVD HQ. __________________________________
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Tazz

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Oct 14, 2016 09:15

The original file type is showing as an MTS file.

CS, that sounds good in theory, but it took HOURS to produce, so it would be nice to get it right the first time haha. But yes, what ever I go with, I need to make sure of two things, that it will play in multiple DVD players, and that the quality is as nice as possible. I can/will use DL disks if it means getting better quality and not condensing it so much.

Jaime, that's where a lot of my questions came in. If my original has a bitrate in the 20's, wouldn't producing at 8 diminish the quality tremendously, or is this where I'm off the mark? I thought that the higher bitrate was much better and therefore needed to produce it at a higher one, closer to the original. At first that was the choice I made, the one you mention here, but then had all these questions pop up in my head.

Tazz

Tazz

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Oct 14, 2016 09:24

One of the other issues, I think that builds so many problems while producing, is that there is no option for my recorded specs...In PD13, the MPEG-2 options that are closest to my originals are only: MPEG-2 1920 x 1080/24p and MPEG-2 1920x1080/60i both at 25 mbps. The 60i option I understand IS 30p, yes? But it's interlaced which I need to stay away from, yes? There is no option for 29.97 (30) and that is under NTSC options. IS this where the create a new profile should be used and build one to match your specs exactly? I'm kinda confused here. My brain is going to explode!

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tomasc

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Oct 14, 2016 11:14

Quote: There is no option for 29.97 (30) and that is under NTSC options. IS this where the create a new profile should be used and build one to match your specs exactly? I'm kinda confused here. My brain is going to explode!

Use the right scroll bars after the drop down window appears and you will find what Jaime-esque posted above.

Your original recordings are progressive or interlaced? And from what source? I know of no camera recording 1920 x 1080 mpeg-2 at 21Mbps data rate as you imply. You need to provide more information.

James Dotson

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Oct 14, 2016 22:08

If I read the question correctly you are wanting to create a DVD. 8 is about as high as you can go. If you are working on a Blu-Ray then that is a different story. __________________________________
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Longedge

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Oct 15, 2016 03:57

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James Dotson

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Oct 15, 2016 22:13

Very good advice. __________________________________
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Tazz

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Oct 16, 2016 11:23

Jaime-esque and Longedge, thank you for all your great advice. Nope, just using the files for DVD. So 8 seems like the top. As you stated "MPEG 2 720x480. Bitrate about 8 Mbps. It may be labeled DVD HQ". That's the choice I will go with.

The camera was a Panasonic HMC150 HD...Under the properties of the original files unloaded from the SD Card, and the details tab it reads: Frame Width: 1920, Frame Height: 1080, Data Rate: 21251kbps, Total Bitrate: 21635kbps, Frame Rate: 29 frame/second. From there it has the Audio Specs listed and so on. I have a screen shot of that screen but don't see an attachment option.