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NomadicBroos [Avatar]
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Can I remove subtitles from a video I have produced/rendered ?
Longedge [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Apr 28, 2011 15:38 Messages: 1504 Offline
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I think you need to be more specific in your question. If for example you are asking if you can take say an mp4 video file and remove the titles from it, then I would say no apart from perhaps placing a suitably positioned color board over the titles. If you still have the project from which the file was produced and the original source material then just remove the titles and produce it again.

p.s. - a.f.a.i.k. the same holds true for subtitles but I stand to be corrected.

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NomadicBroos [Avatar]
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I produced the video including the subtitles in pd14 but I no longer have the original material, only the produced rendered version. I was to remove the subtitles from that.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: I produced the video including the subtitles in pd14 but I no longer have the original material, only the produced rendered version. I was to remove the subtitles from that.


Not possible to remove them. You can cover them up. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hi, NomadicBroos!

As I'm to understand subtitles, as opposed to captions, subtitles are supposed to be embedded into the video and called up when required by the designated button on a DVD(or blu-ray) player's remote control, otherwise they remain hidden. Captions, on the other hand, are on-screen info which, once the video is rendered, can't be removed, can only be "covered over". The subtitles, once embedded and the video rendered, also cannot be removed, but by design, they don't appear unless called up by the button on the remote control, thus there's no real need to remove them.

For myself, I tend to use captions to describe a scene when I can't be bothered putting in a narration track. Subtitles(like those on broadcast TV) are only called up to aid those with loss of hearing, the same idea is applied to DVDs and many feature movies contain embedded subtitles for that purpose, or, alternately to provide translation into another language other than English(or into English if the movie is spoken in another language). So there you have it!

Cheers!

Neil.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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In the Subtitle Room (F12) in Powerdirector you have two choices. 1. Create Subtitles for Disc/Files or 2. Create Subtitles imprinted on a Video file.

The disc/file option creates Closed Captions that can be turned Off or On from the Disk player Remote.

The Subtitles imprinted on the video stamps the captions visibly on the video. Those cannot be removed by editing the Produced Video.
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[Thumb - Subtitle Room Type of Subtitles.PNG]
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Subtitle Room Type of Subtitles.PNG
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 Description
Selection of type of Subtitle
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20 Kbytes
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41 time(s)

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ynotfish
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Well pointed out, Carl -

Here's an example of a video with embedded subtitles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biqE311brPk - nothing to do with disc creation.

The bottom line for the OP (NomadicBroos) is that, without the original project file, the only way these can be
removed is by cropping them out or covering them up. This has already been stated by Longedge & Carl.

i.e. whether they're generated in Subtitles or Titles, the same thing applies.

Cheers - Tony
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Anonymous [Avatar]
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Tony!

What Carl said is more-or-less a recap of what I said. Subtitles(like those carried subliminarily) on a TV broadcast, can be called up if required by use of a button on a remote control, likewise the subtitles on a DVD/Blu-Ray disc when played on the appropriate player. Captions, on the other hand, are on screen for everyone to see,like those on the foreign movies screened on SBS TV here in Australia in languages other than English. They are not called up by any button, they're just there! I'm sure you remember the old joke about SBS when it first started, "read any good movies, lately?"

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Neil -

Carl stated the 2 subtitle options available in the Subtitle module.

Unfortunately, your post was unnecessarily complicated by attempting to draw a distinction between "subtitle" and "caption". There is no distinction. They are synonymous. If you don't believe that check your dictionary.

http://www.onelook.com/?w=caption&ls=a

True - you did write that some subtitles are embedded where others can be activated when viewing a disc.

In any case, the OP's subtitles - however they were generated and whatever you choose to call them - are embedded in the video file.

Cheers - Tony
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Hi NomadicBroos,
You've had a lesson in what not to do where you should have taken a different action. Next time I'm sure you'll opt to back up your project files or decide to create a selection of produced files with and without subtitles.

A lesson learned.
Dafydd
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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There exists, I believe, a third way to remove/reduce/hide the subtitles...

I never used this techniques for subtitles/captions, but it would work, though certainly more tedious than just covering them up. For subtitles/captions I do not think the second render would be needed. I may try this later as an exercise, but I really think it's a viable method.

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Very clever...thanks! Regards,
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NomadicBroos [Avatar]
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Thanks for all the help. Lessons learned for next time. Cheers.
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Quote: Thanks for all the help. Lessons learned for next time. Cheers.
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Anonymous [Avatar]
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Well, I'll leave this one alone now but I stick by what I said:-

Subtitles: carried on DVB signal or embedded in DVD/Blu-Ray disc, called up by command on remote control as or when needed(purpose: for deaf or hearing-impaired people to follow movie or TV show).

Captions: superimposed onto video image to either give translation to another language(e.g. English translation of what's being said in German or other language) or to describe what's happening on screen, or simply to identify a date and location for a scene.

That's as I've always taken them to be.
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