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Terry SE NSW
Newbie Location: NSW, Australia Joined: Jan 28, 2010 02:07 Messages: 40 Offline
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For a short section of an instructional video detailing the setting up of a darkroom I need an effect that will give the impression of the room being videod in the red light necessary. The video needed to be shot in full light due to the camera continually trying to focus in the operating darkroom red light.

I hope there is an easy solution to the effect needed to be added and any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Terry
The Shadowman
Senior Contributor Location: UK Joined: Dec 15, 2014 13:06 Messages: 1831 Offline
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Hi Terry

Try putting a red colour board in the track below your video clip and stretching it to match the clip duration. Double click on the colour board to open the pip designer and reduce the opacity to about 60%.

It may do the job for you, at least you can experiment with it.

Robert Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: For a short section of an instructional video detailing the setting up of a darkroom I need an effect that will give the impression of the room being videod in the red light necessary. The video needed to be shot in full light due to the camera continually trying to focus in the operating darkroom red light.

I hope there is an easy solution to the effect needed to be added and any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Terry
The Shadowman Answered your question.

You may be able to use manual focus with your camera and shoot the dark room with the correct lighting.

Dark rooms are by definition Dark. That makes the light level below what most normal cameras can record without a lot of noise in the video.

You can trick the camera by using a brighter light bulb and the Red Filter, That would give you the red glow of a Dark Room with enough light to film.

Only Black & White film can be processed with a red safe light, Color film processing is complete darkness (No light).

You can film the dark room with a bright red light, just do not do any actual film processing, Use already developed film.

It worth a try for the effect. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
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Hello Carl!

Your remark, "Colour film processing is complete darkness (No light)" puts a whole new slant on the old line: "Come into my darkroom and we'll see what develops!" Seriously though, Shadowman's suggestion is one I'll have to make a mental note of for future reference. Thanks, Shadowman! There are a few other applications of that idea, for mood colouring of a scene, perhaps.

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi Terry -

Another possibility... There are some effects in PDR that could be used to get a darkroom look. In this little sample I used a combination of NewBlue Color Swap, PDR's Glow & Vitascene Filter > Black Vignette.

I've never been inside a darkroom, so the only concept I have is from pictures.



Side notes:


  1. I'd be happy to chip in to get Neil a new joke book!

  2. Carl - I've added your statement "Darkrooms are, by definition, dark" to my book of forum gems ""laughing""


Cheers - Tony

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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: I've never been inside a darkroom, so the only concept I have is from pictures.
Tony, this is the darkroom I had in Nashville, TN.

I used to do Color Film and Color Prints. (1980s thru 1990). This picture was taken with lights on. I am not processing any film in this picture.

As a side note, this is a scan of a Color 35mm slide which was processed in the pictured darkroom.

No more. I am 100% Digital now. I gave away my darkroom equipment to Goodwill.
[Thumb - DarkRoom02.jpg]
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DarkRoom02.jpg
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My old Darkroom. I made a lot of prints here
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180 Kbytes
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Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 07, 2012 09:15 Messages: 1303 Offline
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Quote:
  • I'd be happy to chip in to get Neil a new joke book!



  • Tony,

    Oh, Hardy-Ha-Ha-Ha! I never laid claim to that one about darkrooms but it seemed appropriate to the subject. Your "Colour Swap" could work with a little tweaking, maybe, but Shadowman's suggestion opens up many other possibilities beyond creating the effect of red glow of a darkroom. Mood colouring of a scene, as I suggested before, is another possible use of Shadowman's suggestion. Just a thought!

    Cheers!

    Neil.
    Terry SE NSW
    Newbie Location: NSW, Australia Joined: Jan 28, 2010 02:07 Messages: 40 Offline
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    Many thanks for all these suggestions, I've adopted a hybrid method from all these.

    Shadowman: I created a new colour board as the ones supplied were not quite the colour I needed and adopted you opacity suggestion.

    Carl: Your suggestion to use the manual settings on my camera is a great idea but my camera does not allow for this function. Like you my film processing equipment is now redundant since I've gone digital. Eventually they may be museum pieces.

    Tony: Thanks for the effort you've gone to in producing the video, very helpful. I've also used the glow effect and added a darker mask around the perimeter.

    Neil: A new joke book is on its way!

    Problem solved and again many thanks.

    Terry
    Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
    Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 07, 2012 09:15 Messages: 1303 Offline
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    Quote:

    Neil: A new joke book is on its way!

    Terry


    Ooh, cheeky, Terry!laughing

    But I'm glad you've been able to create a workaround by creating a clolour board to the particular shade of red that you needed.

    Cheers!

    Neil.
    Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
    Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 07, 2012 09:15 Messages: 1303 Offline
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    Quote:

    Neil: A new joke book is on its way!

    Terry


    Ooh, cheeky, Terry!laughing

    But I'm glad you've been able to create a workaround by creating a colour board to the particular shade of red that you needed.

    Cheers!

    Neil.

    (P.S. - had to re-post this, save took longer than it should have after clicking on "submit")

    It appears an uncorrected original version of my post has appeared ahead of my "corrected" version. Could a moderator please delete the earlier version?

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    Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
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    Hi, all!

    I said this thread had given me an idea or two on possible other uses..... Well, indeed it has! I was sitting at my computer last night, PD14 open, toying with some old MPG content from a friend's camera(he'd shot some extra stuff from Steamfest 2015), when I had my "light-bulb moment"(in cartoons, when a character gets an idea, a light-bulb appears over his/her head), an intro sequence, from 10 seconds of black, through fade transition to 10 seconds of a purple colour, then into the video itself with Threshold 2 as the transition(image breaks in through the purple colour), then, using the same shade of purple(56,0,71) on the PiP track, set at 20 seconds duration, the transitions are set at 5 seconds, overlapping, by the way, the purple shade is set to 50% opacity unti it reches 15 seconds, then fades to zero for its last 5 seconds. Result: a purple tinge over the video, ripe for superimposing a title sequence! Following the process in reverse effect, but using Threshold 1 for the purple to break through the video, I used the effect to create a background for a sort-of "closing credit" sequence. And there you have it! Take a bow, Shadowman! It was your suggestion that inspired me! The original idea of a "red glow" effect for a dark-room scene, clearly has merit!

    Cheers!

    Neil.
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