Excrutiatingly slow rendering (i7 4790k/GTX 950 2Gbg)

IanOnTheTrent

Newbie Location: Campbellford Ontario Canada Joined: Apr 04, 2016 17:43 Messages: 10 Offline

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Apr 30, 2016 16:10

RE: PD14.

As I type, my 98-second clip has taken 41 minutes to process 51%. An estimated 39:05 to go. I did use Color Director to tweak a few things but OMG, what's taking it sooooo long. My CPU is only running at approx 65-71%.

My system is Windows 8.1 / i7-4790K / new Asus GeForce GTX 950 / 16Gb RAM / new power supply with lots of headroom. (Nothing is overclocked.)

The original clip is an MP4 taken by my Phantom 2 Vision+ at 1920x1080, 30fps. I'm rendering it the same. I have just moved from Corel VideoStudio Pro X8. VSPx8 utilized 100% of the CPU. PD14 certainly has many more features that VSPx8 but man, PD is super slow. I wonder if my system is set up incorrectly?

kmjk333

Member Joined: Feb 16, 2016 02:23 Messages: 93 Offline

Apr 30, 2016 19:25

What is your output settings? Did you manually setup your video card to use the "enable hardware decoding" in preference? And also in "Produce"-Hardware video encoder?

I can process a 8:08 4K gaming video in 7:20 mins. But no 2 systems are the same.

You system should not be taking that long of a time to process. It could be as simple as adjusting your PD settings

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Apr 30, 2016 20:28

The tweaks in ColorDirector, as well as any others, can add time to the render. Currently I have a 60 minute project, 3 HD cameras in the timelines at once, dedicated audio track with 2 titles and some photos.
My tweaks consist of Stabilizer on about 15% of the project, and the entirety of the timelines have color and lighting fixes, as well as I have dragged a few corners of the majority of my videos to correct distortions. 60 minutes full HD to DVD file takes almost 5 hours. That is without Quicksync or HA due to other issues. My short question is WHAT tweaks?

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
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IanOnTheTrent

Newbie Location: Campbellford Ontario Canada Joined: Apr 04, 2016 17:43 Messages: 10 Offline

Apr 30, 2016 22:27

I've seen this mentioned a fair bit and I can't believe I've not heard of the term before...what is HA?

IanOnTheTrent

Newbie Location: Campbellford Ontario Canada Joined: Apr 04, 2016 17:43 Messages: 10 Offline

Apr 30, 2016 22:31

Thanks for replying kmjk333 and Barry. First, I need to do some digging into the settings...I haven't done anything with regard to encoding and decoding.

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

May 01, 2016 01:52

HA is just shorthand for Hardware Acceleration. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

kmjk333

Member Joined: Feb 16, 2016 02:23 Messages: 93 Offline

May 01, 2016 06:03

"60 minutes full HD to DVD file takes almost 5 hours."

Wow, Barry, ...........

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

May 01, 2016 06:14

Lots of tweaks, decent computer, but this is just to show that messing with colors and such will really slow things down.
To be clear it's being redered to mpeg-2 DVD compliant ~8Mbps, I will burn that file to DVD rather quickly.

I'll add the Full HD AVC to the same format, with the corrections, takes almost 10 hours. I'd like to know what the OP's corrections were.

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

IanOnTheTrent

Newbie Location: Campbellford Ontario Canada Joined: Apr 04, 2016 17:43 Messages: 10 Offline

May 12, 2016 15:51

Maybe that's it then. I'm so used to using Corel Videostudio Pro that I didn't appreciate that vastly increasing the editing power by using Cyberlink PD also vastly increased the rendering time. It does make sense.

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Richmond Dan

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May 12, 2016 16:45

Yeah, they ran out of free lunches last week...

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SoNic67

Senior Contributor Joined: Sep 27, 2014 14:14 Messages: 1308 Offline

May 12, 2016 20:11

Can you share a short clip and the associated project file?
I would like to give it a go too, I can't believe is normal to take so long...

The CPU being lower than 100% it means that the GPU is used in that time - you can monitor that with GPU-Z. In my experience Corel doesn't use the GPU (that's why you saw 100% all the time).

PS: "WeTransfer" can share files up to 2GB for free.

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kmjk333

Member Joined: Feb 16, 2016 02:23 Messages: 93 Offline

May 12, 2016 20:32

Quote: Can you share a short clip and the associated project file?
I would like to give it a go too, I can't believe is normal to take so long...

The CPU being lower than 100% it means that the GPU is used in that time - you can monitor that with GPU-Z. In my experience Corel doesn't use the GPU (that's why you saw 100% all the time).

PS: "WeTransfer" can share files up to 2GB for free.

Up to the original owner if you would like to share your file. I would also like to give it a go on my system.

If not, I completely understand

IanOnTheTrent

Newbie Location: Campbellford Ontario Canada Joined: Apr 04, 2016 17:43 Messages: 10 Offline

May 13, 2016 10:58

Just a bit swamped at the moment. Where would I upload a clip for you to fiddle with?

SoNic67

Senior Contributor Joined: Sep 27, 2014 14:14 Messages: 1308 Offline

May 13, 2016 11:09

Like I said, try WeTransfer.com if file is smaller than 2GB - all we need is a few random seconds with your specific project files (so we apply the same operations).