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Recommend a ripper to use in PD 14?
angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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I cannot get my PD to rip or upload from my dvd player. Sometimes the images come up into the timeline, but not the sound. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
stevek
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What are you trying to "rip" from the DVD player? Do you have a DVD player on your compouter?

Why don't ou just copy the DVD from the computer's dvd drive to your hard drive and work from the VOB (mpg2) files?

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angela123
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Steve, after we film our shows, the studio gives it to us on a dvd. Then, I come back and want to edit it but when I try to import it to the PD timeline, it will not import. It makes tons and tones of sounds like it is trying, but the actual audio and full show never comes over. It does work however, in my avs editor, so I don't get it.
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Hi, Angela!

If PD14 is not completely "capturing" the content from the DVDs you've been given, it could be due to those at the TV station you're submitting to using a different software to burn the discs(just a thought). You say you can get sound and vision if working through your AVS editor, that may be your solution. Use the AVS editor software to "capture" the content off the discs, then import those captures into PD14 and see if you get video and audio that way. I can't guarantee it, but it might be worth a try.

Cheers!

Neil.
BarryTheCrab
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With PD there is no need to "capture" content from a DVD. Simply place the disc in a working drive, browse to it using windows, and you'll see the contents of the disc, menu, any added data. The actual video content is in Vob files, that may include any menu items, I don't recall at the moment but just click on the files you will soon see exactly what they are. Copy/Paste. Done.

Please note any "audio" folder is usually empty, don't sweat it, DVD players need that folder for some reason, but it's empty.

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angela123
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Neil, the station uses Final Cut Pro, which works with Mac, and I have a Pc, so, maybe that is it.
Barry, although I can browse and find the TS files, they will not import off the dVd.
YES, that is what I am trying to say, I just realized, its the TS files that PD doesn't accept.
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Hi, Angela!

Final Cut Pro operating on an Apple Mac platform, ay? That fairly sums it up! You have AVS on your Windows PC which obviously has provision to capture content off a DVD made in Final Cut Pro and convert it to a usable file type that Power Director will accept, there's your workaround solution! Humouring Barry for the moment, if you load the disc into your drive to access the VOB files directly, could you copy and paste those files(they'll all be in the one VOB folder) to a spot on your hard-drive and access them from there? Just a thought! If not, then you have that AVS software as your back-up.

Cheers!

Neil.

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angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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what / where is the "vob" file??? Would it be a shorter work around?
ynotfish
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Angela -

Whilst it may be possible to "capture" a DVD (dunno - never bothered), the advice Barry and Steve have offered is the easiest thing to do.

When you open the DVD on your PC, there are two folders - VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS.

Open the VIDEO_TS folder and you'll see a number of VOB files (see attached screenshot with red dots marking VOBs). Don't worry about the .BUP & .IFO files.

As Barry said, some of the VOB files are just part of the menu & you won't need those. Essentially, you'll be looking for the .VOB files with the biggest file size - they contain the videos you want to import.

You can import .VOB files directly into PDR.

N.B. A better quality option would be to get the FCP guys to render you an HD copy!

Cheers - Tony
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Quote: Whilst it may be possible to "capture" a DVD (dunno - never bothered)


Yes - it's an option to use the capture module to extract the video as MPEG-2 into PDR...

30 minute video took ~15 minutes to capture. Tranferred same files from DVS in ~10 seconds laughing

Cheers - Tony
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Any possibility that the TV station is adding some sort of copy protection to the disc? Ask the. You may have given them your copyright so they may want to protect it from being sold to another station. .
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Carl312
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Quote: Neil, the station uses Final Cut Pro, which works with Mac, and I have a Pc, so, maybe that is it.
Barry, although I can browse and find the TS files, they will not import off the dVd.
YES, that is what I am trying to say, I just realized, its the TS files that PD doesn't accept.
You do not need anything except for Windows Explorer. Put the DVD in you DVD drive. (It is a Data DVD, because it has *.TS files). Copy the TS files to a folder on your computer.

You can then Import the TS files into Powerdirector. Unless the TS files are not the the same AVCHD files that Powerdirector accepts, you may need to use a file converter to convert the TS files to a format that Powerdirector will accept (M2TS, MP4, MKV).

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BarryTheCrab
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ynotfish
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Good thinking Carl - I wasn't even consideriing data DVDs.

Angela - can you please clarify? Are those "ts" things folders, like AUDIO_TS or files, like xxvideo.ts

Some .ts (transport stream) videos will import directly into PDR. Others won't, and will need conversion as Carl suggested.

Cheers - Tony
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See this sticky for part E: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/45453.page . Please provide a screenshot of the dvd drive folder and files for all to see.
BarryTheCrab
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We need to see the contents of the disc, spot on, tomasc. Normally a topic like this would be so easy to deal with that this thread would have been over and done with many posts ago. This is getting nutty! Screenshot please.

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Hello all, and particularly Angela123!

Going on my own experiences, I've always used my DVD-drive and directly extracted content into PD, thus avoiding the need to fiddle with the VOB file contents*. It seems there are some file compatibility problems that might arise from the TV station using am Apple Mac-based disc authoring software, as well as SteveK's suggestion that copyright-protection may have been embedded into the disc. A combination of these factors may be hampering your attempts to extract the disc comtents for your own use, Angela.

*In relation to VOB files(folders containing portions of the videos in MPEG2 file type), I've toyed about with these and found that, while I can load them into Power Director, stringing the files together to reconstruct the video isn't as straight-forward as it might appear. If a VOB file has, for example three portions of the total video, and there may be three such folders on the disc, each containing three portions, as you join the portions together, you'll notice a "jump" from one portion to the next, particularly noticable if a portion comes to its end in the middle of an action, like opening a gate into a garden, for instance, there might be a displaced frame so when you add the next portion, the gate swing might be further advanced(a sudden jolt) or the last frame of one portion might be repeated as the first frame on the next portion, this can be fixed in PD14 by snipping off the surplus frame.

But all that to one side, If the disc is home-burn or a commercial disc that had no copy-protection embedded, it's just a matter of dropping it into my DVD drive, opening PD, selecting the appropriate mode in the capture window and the entire video comes in without any hiccups unless it's a long freature film whose total file size may go beyond 4 gigabytes, then, the remaining few minutes will show up as a separate capture which I have to join on to the rest to complete the video. There you have it, my experience of extracting disc content into Power Director.

Cheers!

Neil.
angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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ok Carl, I will try to import the TS files to a file on my desktop and see if that works. I used to be able to import them to PD before I reinstalled a few times back.
ynotfish
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Hi Angela -

It's difficult to be able to help resolve your issue without you providing the information needed. Members here still don't know of those "TS" things are files or folders.



Solving problems is made even more difficult when misinformation is provided as part of the collective response. Neil - the middle paragraph of your post above has no truth in it. Rather than clutter up the forum pages refuting your statement, I've attached a PDF file containg facts based on repeated testing, with not a single guess included. I fully expect you'll ignore it.

Angela is clearly struggling with the technicalities & "senior contributors" have some kind of responsibility to post information that is as accurate & helpful as possible. Yes - I know we're not paid nor obliged, but we're supposed to be "helping" not hindering.

My apologies for "moralising".

Tony
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angela123
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ynotfish: they are TS folders! Thanks for showing that. I used to be able to import them to my timeline, and now I can not.
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