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jwglista [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 26, 2016 15:28 Messages: 4 Offline
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Hello,

I am using the trial version of PowerDirector 14 to find out if it will suit my needs. I have a Canon VIXIA HF R700 that records in AVCHD 1080 60p. When editing these clips in PowerDirector, they playback is clearly 60 fps. When I "produce" the final video, I use the XAVC S codec with a setting of 1920 x 1080/60p (27 Mbps). However, when I play back this final video, the playback is clearly not 60 fps, it is 30 fps. When I right-click this file, in the video properties, it does show as 60 fps, but playback is not in 60 fps. Also, outside of PowerDirector, if I play the individual clips using the Windows Movie player (in Window 10), they do in fact play back at 60 fps.

Is this some kind of limitation in the trial version? This would be a deal breaker for me if I can't get true output at 60 fps on my final video projects.

Thanks
jwglista [Avatar]
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Also, I am finding that when I render anything to 30p, it appears as though the output is actually 15 fps, because it is very choppy.
CS2014
Senior Contributor Location: USA-Eastern Time Zone Joined: Sep 16, 2014 16:44 Messages: 629 Offline
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I am not the authority on this but... hopefully others will chime in when needed.

I know the trial version does have some limitations - but I do not know if what you are describing is such a limitation with the trial version.

What are you using to 'judge' if you are viewing your video clips at 60fps or 30 fps or 15 fps? If you are right clicking and properties says the clip is 60fps.... are you saying that what you are viewing is NOT 60fps?... based on what? - something you are observing or some other diagnostic? If some other diagnostic - what diagnostic?

If 'choppiness' is what you are using to tell if the clip is 60 or 15 fps - it may be something else entirely - like if your computer is not up to the task of video editing ... or something similar.

What are your computer-GPU-CPU specs?

CS PD13 Ultimate - Build 3516, WIN 8.1, 64 Bit, 16G RAM, Intel Core i5 4460, CPU @ 3.2GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GT720, Graphics Memory(total avail.)-4093MB
LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive
jwglista [Avatar]
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Yes, when I right click on the produced file by PowerDirector, in the movie properties, it says 60 fps, but when I actually view the movie, it is definitely playing back at 30 fps.

To answer your question as to how I know this, I am testing this all out by taking a single video clip I recorded at 60 fps. Outside of PowerDirector, I can view this clip with Windows Movie player, and it is clearly playing without issues (hardware is not an issue) at 60 fps). I am using this single 60 fps clip inside of PowerDirector to test all of this.

I should also note that I have used Windows Movie Maker and had no issues having it produce a final output file that reports and also plays back at 60 fps. The output type from Movie Maker is MP4, just like what I have been trying with PowerDirector.

Thanks,

John
jwglista [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 26, 2016 15:28 Messages: 4 Offline
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Some other things I will note:

1) When I choose H.264 AVC at 120p, THEN it appears as though the playback on the produced video is now showing the original 60 fps, however, the resulting file size is massive, so this is not an acceptable solution.

2) I have tried all the different codecs: XAVC S, H.264 AVC, and MPEG-2. All seem to actually write a frame rate that is one half of what I am actually selecting in the video format drop down, but the file sizes correspond to the frame rate that was selected.

3) I downloaded the trial of ColorDirector just to see if it would act any differently, but I am observing the exact same behavior here as well.

John
jan den hollander [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 18, 2015 15:54 Messages: 49 Offline
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Quote: Also, I am finding that when I render anything to 30p, it appears as though the output is actually 15 fps, because it is very choppy.




I had the same prob with files rendered at 25 fps playing back choppy while properties showed the correct 25 fps in potplayer.

I solved the prob by setting the mode from quality to speed within the codec settings..h264 avc.

Now rendered files playback at the correct speed,no more stutter.

Don't ask me why this strange behavior occurs,but changing from quality to speed setting cured the prob.

So I suggest you try it.
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