Remco - apologies but I'd like to ask a question about produced settings - and how they affect video clip quality on 'non-4K' video clips - if I may?

I know you (Tony/Robert/Remco) are talking 4K here guys but may I ask... I would your opinions about if you think you would see a difference in the 'rippling' scenes/places if the bitrate of 15 compared to 59Mbps was applied to 1920 x1080/60p video clips???

I know - I need to get some video of such a scene and then apply those settings to a produced clip and look for myself. I have some video from last year on the water so might see if any would be good for this sort of comparison. But what is your opinions?

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CS The Bit Rate (#Mbps) is the amount of information every second of video contains. Logically, then the higher the bit rate the better the quality of video. The higher bit rates require more bandwidth to playback, and of course the files can be much larger too.

Given the above, there must be a substantial difference between 15 and 59 Mbps, but whether you would notice it in everyday video clips is debatable..

Over to......................??

Robert Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

(not sure what you are implying Robert with the comment 'Over to......??' (apologies) ... unless you are handing comment over to the next person that wants to comment)

I am familiar with the understanding that higher bit rate may/can affect or make for a higher quality/better appearing video appearance.

I am limited to viewing 1920x1080 resolution video clips - my monitor is maxed out at this setting - Dell SR2220L(HDMI).

I think I have to use video clips that have movement in them like previously stated, leaves oscillating in the wind - moving water over riffles may be the sort of video subject where I can see the difference better. So with a 1920x1080/60p clip - and using trees/leaves blowing in the wind or water flowing over riffles - I should see really obviously the difference in 15Mbps and 60Mbps correct?

'Everyday video, I understand seeing this difference may be more difficult to see.

CS
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@ ynotfish and The Shadowman
I think i am almost there, i have rendered with the suggested settings and it improved alot, but for some reason the start of the movie was still crap

Now i have disabled all the options like improve quality of the lightning and the option of video improvement and now the quality is alot better.

One question, how do you setup the thumbnail the video has when it is saved on your computer or uploaded to any media?

@CS2014
I know i can't answer that question better then ynotfish and The Shadowman. They have helped me alot and i am just starting with video editing.

Good job RemcoVi!

There's a lot of stuff to get your head around, but you're getting on top of it. If you start with good quality clips and don't do too much to them, you're off to a good start.

Changing video thumbnails for Windows and YouTube are two completely different processes.

For YouTube, read this - https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72431?hl=en or watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWLkxi270M Your account needs to be verified with a contact phone number, I think.

To change the thumbnail that appears in Windows, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbAZFpqags

Cheers - Tony
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I must apologize to you though Remco - me starting that sort of inquiry is 'hi-jacking' and I do apologize for that. I'll start a new thread to ask this.

Thanks

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Hi CS -

Personally, I wouldn't regard that as hijacking at all. 4K or not, your video bitrate question is at the core of Remco's original question. In fact, that's where the discussion was leading...

As you've stated, the difference in picture quality is going to be more noticeable the more complex & fast moving the video action is.

If you were producing, for example, a colour board just sitting there doing nothing you'd barely see a difference if it was produced at 1Mbps or 50Mbps. A static shot of a quiet garden on a still day? 15 or 59Mbps would have little impact.

BUT if you're a skateboarder with a POV action cam on your helmet, or on a fast moving train shooting the scenery flying by - there'll be a massive difference if you produce at 15/60Mbps.

Cheers - Tony
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'One question, how do you setup the thumbnail the video has when it is saved on your computer or uploaded to any media?'
My answer to that is select a frame in your timeline in title or wherever and take a still snapshot or ctrl P
Then change it in YouTube Video Manager.



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Quote: 'One question, how do you setup the thumbnail the video has when it is saved on your computer or uploaded to any media?'

My answer to that is select a frame in your timeline in title or wherever and take a still snapshot or ctrl P
Then change it in YouTube Video Manager.

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