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angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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So, I produce a file of my video and I even upload it to you tube from my desktop.

However, when I produced DVD'S the voice is not synched with the lips moving. This happened on four dvd's in a row.



Anyone ever run into this before? Thanks. Angela
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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Quote: So, I produce a file of my video and I even upload it to you tube from my desktop.

However, when I produced DVD'S the voice is not synched with the lips moving. This happened on four dvd's in a row.

Anyone ever run into this before? Thanks. Angela


Yes. This is somewtimes the result of dropped frames in the video and possibly becuase your computer is not capable of doing everythinn it needs to do at one time - encode and burn.

The easiest way of findoing out what the issue is is to output the video project to an ISO (image file) and play it with PowerDVD 15 to see if the sync is there. If you don;t have PowerDVD 15, download the free VLC player and use that to play the ISO.

If everyhitng is in sync, you can use Power2Go or ISOBurn to burn the ISO file to a DVD. The other advantage is that you can use the ISO to burn as many copies as you wish.

If the sync issue is there in the ISO, then we'll have to look further into the issue.

Make sure that you have the minimum amout of programs open when encoding, discoonect from the internet and turn off things like e-mail and yoiur antivirus. .
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angela123
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thanks I will do this tonight upon return. It never happened before...
stevek
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Quote: thanks I will do this tonight upon return. It never happened before...


Most projects are different and maybe this one has a little more

or

Perhaps it is time to do a little maintenance on your computer. There are a lot of free programs that will get rid of junk and temporary files. Do not use a registry cleaner because they don't solve problems and some might delete needed .dll files. (For example: http://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/ .
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CS2014
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Steve - how would I output the video to an 'ISO' file? Is this done from or in PD?

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stevek
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Quote: Steve - how would I output the video to an 'ISO' file? Is this done from or in PD?

CS


Power Director 14. When you go to burn a disc, select burn in 2D and a pop up will open. This is new in PD 14. since you have PD 13, you can make a folder set aand then burn that.



See image.
[Thumb - burn_ISo.png]
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burn_ISo.png
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Burn ISO pop up
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259 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
47 time(s)

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ISO option is available in PD 13, or at least it is on mine. i would make note of the folder that you are saving it in for future use so as to be to find.

If you do not name it then the name of it will be "default".
CS2014
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Oooo... ok.. so if you save the output file ... the output from the burn attempt - that creates an ISO file? .... and I just need to designate a folder and name the file.. but THAT file IS ... an ISO file?

K... thanks

CS

p.s. ... in PD13 here.. would this be Saving as a Disc Image? nevermind.. got it.. thanks

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And when you check the box for "Create a Folder' ... does that just create a PDS file... a PowerDirector file of the project?

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stevek
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Quote: ISO option is available in PD 13, or at least it is on mine. i would make note of the folder that you are saving it in for future use so as to be to find.

If you do not name it then the name of it will be "default".




Thanks Dannie, I didn't have PDirector 13 to see. I though I read that this was new in PowerDirector 14.

BTY, you can burn the folder set to a DVD using Power2Go or ISO burn. .
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CS2014
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and I do apologize for hijacking the thread here.. I'll leave now!

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stevek
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Quote: Oooo... ok.. so if you save the output file ... the output from the burn attempt - that creates an ISO file? .... and I just need to designate a folder and name the file.. but THAT file IS ... an ISO file?

K... thanks

CS


Perhaps I'm not understanding what you asked. Did you look at the image I posted?

An ISO is a file that has all the necessary files that are needed to have a disc play on a DVD. It is finished and cannot be editied.

or

"An ISO image is an archive file of an optical disc, a type of disk image composed of the data contents from every written sector on an optical disc, including the optical disc file system. ISO image files usually have a file extension of .iso."

You would use it only as a final output that can be used to burn mulitple DVDs. It separate the burning from the encoding and sometimes cures issues when the computer is not capable of encoding and burning at the same time. I don;t remember how PowerDirector works but it may do the encoding, creating the ISO file and then also burn that if both are selected in that burn dialog box. Of course, only ONE ISO file can be burned to one disc. .
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Stevek,
You are right on.
Thanks
Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
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Hello, Steve!

In your remark(a portion thereof): "sometimes the result of dropped frames in the video", yes, dropped frames can put audio and video out of sync if the audio was added later. What I mean there is, generally, a dropped video frame is a result of capturing content off an analogue tape, via capture device and the tape may be worn, resulting in possibly a lot more than one dropped frame, but in that situation, the audio is being captured along with the video, so a dropped frame will result in that momentary loss in both video and audio. If the audio is being recorded separately, be it on a digital audio recorder, minidisc recorder, or even an old cassette recorder(analogue), if the video is digitally-sourced, theoretically, there should not be any dropped frames. By my guess, I believe Angela123 works either on-staff or freelance for one of her local New York TV stations(am I right there, Angela? Please correct me if I'm not) and the general practice for someone like Angela, would be to record audio separate from the video and match the two elements in the editing stage, and this is where Angela's problems are arising.

Cheers!

Neil.
stevek
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Hi Neil, good discussion.

I would have expected that the out of sync condition would have shown up in the video that was produced and uploaded. Angela indicated that the uploaded video was fine.

That is why i spent most of the reply targeting the encoding and burning at the same time. Many times this is solved by separating the two steps by creating the ISO file (or folder set) and then burning that. The encoding and burning at the same time could be the cause.

I don't know if she output the project to a video file separately and then cretaed the disc from that or if she re-encoded the project and burned it to a disc at the same time.

Perhaps Angela will tell us what.how she did it.

Off topic -- I hope she is using the best quality discs for the burn. The disc would not be the cause of the dropped frames however.

I didn't know that she worked for a TV station; I thought that she freelanced for clients who needed "sales" type videos.

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CS2014
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I thought I understood your attached picture Steve.

If I checked the box you have checked in your picture (Save as Disc Image), and then hit 'Start Burning' - THAT would create a ISO file in the folder - in this case - "C:\Users\Valued Customer\Documents....... etc." !

Right?

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stevek
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Right ! .
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CS2014
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Thanks... now I'll 'shut up'...
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Hi, Steve!

In relation to Angela's career, I was guessing that she worked either on-staff or freelance for a New York TV station. Only Angela can tell if my guess was correct, or way off base! My experience of converting analogue video source(VHS and Video-8 or Hi-8 camera tapes) to digital informs my view of dropped frames, if the tape is old(as it will be), it will be worn to some degree and dropped frames will be inevitable, but with those dropped frames comes the commensurate momentary loss of audio. With digital, particularly off SD cards or in-built hard-drives of many models of camera, the dropped frame problem is eliminated, but some of these cameras fall down a little when it comes to the in-built stereo microphone capabilities, That's why, even with professional-grade cameras, many camera operators, especially in Angela's profession, will record the audio separately, that's where Angela's problem arises. The old time-tested "clapper-board" could help(an Australian invention, by the way), or, failing that, a simple clap of hands, picked up on camera and microphone, can help the synchronisation, then, when audio and video are properly meshed together, render and burn to disc.

Cheers!

Neil.
stevek
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I remember those "old" days with a lot of dropped frames from video cameras and "old" computers. One simple work around that we used to use was to limit the capture multiple 10 minutes files. That allowed the computer to catch up! wink The frame loss was mimimized so the out of sync issue would be limited.

I guess that shows my age ! surprised .
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Quote: I remember those "old" days with a lot of dropped frames from video cameras and "old" computers. One simple work around that we used to use was to limit the capture multiple 10 minutes files. That allowed the computer to catch up! wink The frame loss was mimimized so the out of sync issue would be limited.

I guess that shows my age ! surprised


Well, we're not quite yet to the point where we're using Zimmer-frames to walk around! (LOL) But on the first computer I used to do video editing(Windows Millenium Edition) the first capture card I used was from Avermedia, good for video, attrocious for audio! I moved on to Windows XP, PD7 and a Dazzle capture device, good on both audio and video but a bit super-sensitive to conditions of older tapes.... false triggering of copy-protect function, thought the capture device was at fault, proved wrong! Next came Windows 7, gravitated from PD7 to PD8(PD8 still installed and living happily alongside PD14) and a K-World capture device, Still getting the occasional false triggering of the copy-protect function but now I know it's the tape itself that's the culprit.

Cheers!

Neil.
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