HiFishB8
congratulation to me id looks like a real Baby to Love !! Pauls PC
X399 AORUS Extreme/AMD Ryzen2970WX/1xQuatro 4000 Driver:Geforce 419.67Skill V DDR4 64GB/3200MHz/Win10 prox64
Intel SSD 750/400 / Intel SSD 750/1.2Tb 1x4TB SSHD /1xSeagate 10TB pro
1xSamsung UA28D590 4k LUMIX GH5 1xLG HDR

Just make sure the power supply can handle the load ( all the stuff running in the computer).
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LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive

I recommend CorsairRM 1000 for the Future ( Like Mine ) Pauls PC
X399 AORUS Extreme/AMD Ryzen2970WX/1xQuatro 4000 Driver:Geforce 419.67Skill V DDR4 64GB/3200MHz/Win10 prox64
Intel SSD 750/400 / Intel SSD 750/1.2Tb 1x4TB SSHD /1xSeagate 10TB pro
1xSamsung UA28D590 4k LUMIX GH5 1xLG HDR

Quote: HiFishB8
congratulation to me id looks like a real Baby to Love !!

I think I can hear strains of Diana Ross & The Supremes singing "Baby Love" in the background, somewhere!

Cheers!

Neil

Thanks for the replies re PSU.

I've spent this morning reading about PSUs (starting from a position of knowing close to nothing) and two points crop up. One is to buy quality - and the difference in price between a reputable brand and a cheapy is not a lot, so that's easy.

But the other point is that more is not always better. When it comes to my car and boat I like to have more power than I need and run it all in a nice stress-free, lazy sort of way. Reading up on PSUs it seems that it is not the same. A larger PSU running at low load is inefficient, and that can lead to heat, and that's something to avoid. So the aim is to have enough power, with a bit of headroom - but not too much. Now, if that is correct then I need to know my requirements.

So, I've found a few PSU calculators online, tapped in my specs (as listed above), and they are calculating a PSU of about 430W.

I am not a gamer, so really just need the new PC for browsing the internet and video editing. I am guessing that when browsing and using an SSD that the power usage is going to be pretty low. If this configuration is going to handle editing at HD output, then I doubt I will need any upgrades for a while and should therefore select power for the existing set-up, rather than trying to future proof it.

So maybe I'm looking for a 500W PSU?

Or am I missing something? (Quite likely!)

Thanks I'm not young enough to know everything.

welcome to the forum.

Quote: ... they are calculating a PSU of about 430W.

I am not a gamer, so really just need the new PC for browsing the internet and video editing. I am guessing that when browsing and using an SSD that the power usage is going to be pretty low. If this configuration is going to handle editing at HD output, then I doubt I will need any upgrades for a while and should therefore select power for the existing set-up, rather than trying to future proof it.

So maybe I'm looking for a 500W PSU? ...

you're right about the power supply. 500W doesn't hurt. i have 450W PS.

however, Micorsoft said that windows 10 will not be supported by Haswell series cpu.

it will be Skylake or later cpu will be minimum to run the windows 10 OS!

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/



happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out' 'no bridge too far'

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Hi PepsiMan

Thanks for all your input on the forum.... some of us need quite a bit of help.

I am now even more confused. On the PC Perf Stats on the GTX 960 thread I see JethroXP using an i7 5820k with Win 10 and getting what looked like good results.

And on my PC in front of me here in the rainy North of New Zealand I am using Windows 10 on a Dell Inspiron with Pentium Dual Core 5400 @ 2.7GHz.

I thought that the GTX960 / i7 5820k combination was the dream combo for this software? So I'm not sure what to think now.

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks I'm not young enough to know everything.

The longer you wait the more new items will appear like a skylake i7 6xxx hex core cpu. 10 years from now new cpu will be even better.

Well, I really hope I can set myself up with a stable, quiet and reasonably fast machine that will run PD 14 without waiting for ten years!!

Yes, I know that there's always something better just a round the corner, and if we are on the brink of something wonderful then I'll wait.

I am just looking for a simple solution. Can't edit with my current PC. I don't know about Linux and other OS, so I thought just run with something mainstream - Win 10. From reading through this forum it seems that PD14 is good software - if you get the hardware right. If not it seems you need to be pretty PC savvy to fix the glitches. Hey, I don't mind learning - and this seems to be a pretty supportive place - but I would prefer to be re-learning editing rather than fighting a machine.

Anyway, still searching.... I'm not young enough to know everything.

i am waiting at least till June of this year and see what the intel has to offer.

kaby or scooter cannonball lake supposedly do 8/10 bit 4.2.2 / 4.4.4 ...



if you can't wait then your homework is more than enough to run PD14.

happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out' 'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1

Thanks for that PepsiMan.

It's probably been more than twenty years that I have been saying "I quite fancy getting back into editing", and never quite getting round to it. So perhaps a few more months will not matter.

Used to play with 16mm film many years ago. And now video is everywhere waiting to be diced and spliced. So, I'll Google about for a while and either take the plunge or wait for the next i7 releases (or whatever). It's summer fishing time here now and maybe editing is a winter project.

Cheers I'm not young enough to know everything.

Pepsi:
Hey Pepsi ... what does "kaby or scooter cannonball lake supposedly do 8/10 bit 4.2.2 / 4.4.4 ... " mean?

I've seen the thread that was talking about the June time frame for the - what I'll call the 'next generation CPU' - June being the approximate time when it will be released.

Also, how does one know if you are getting a "Haswell series cpu - or a Skylake cpu? I suppose it's that you specify that but..... I'm not 'THAT' savvy either as far as computers and so I'm curious and want to learn more about what the differences are about those CPUs.


How can I identify what version/flavour of CPU is in my PC? When I go into Control Panel/System - I do NOT see any mention of the 'Skylake', or 'Haswell' or 'Kaby' listed.
In device manager under General - ACPI x64-based PC is listed.

I know ... I'll go google.. lol

FishB8:
Um... you might want to prepare yourself as far as not having computer issues but... it's inevitable ... sorry ! Somewhere , sometime you might have an issue with an update, either from PD or WIN or graphics drivers, ... and you'll be scratching your head and maybe even using 'choice language' to describe your situation (lol). Trying to minimize that is good and I think we all 'TRY' to do that. But.... it's bound to happen - just wanted to forewarn you on this.

CS PD13 Ultimate - Build 3516, WIN 8.1, 64 Bit, 16G RAM, Intel Core i5 4460, CPU @ 3.2GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GT720, Graphics Memory(total avail.)-4093MB
LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive

FishB8:

me, super 8mm film, chop, dice & splice home movies.



CS2014:

download CPU-Z -> http://www.cpuid.com/

about 8/10 bit 4.2.2 / 4.4.4 -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling



Skylake cpu does 8 bit 4.2.0.

it's all about reproducing color and sharpness. Progressive is sharper than Interlaced yet some still

prefers Interlaced (AVI) ... also lens can not focus all the colors on a point...

would you like to watch 256 color monitor or 32 million color monitor?

i'll stop here.



happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out' 'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1

Quote:

How can I identify what version/flavour of CPU is in my PC? When I go into Control Panel/System - I do NOT see any mention of the 'Skylake', or 'Haswell' or 'Kaby' listed.
In device manager under General - ACPI x64-based PC is listed.

lol ...

download CPU-Z -> http://www.cpuid.com/ 'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1

Quote:
Um... you might want to prepare yourself as far as not having computer issues but... it's inevitable ... sorry ! Somewhere , sometime you might have an issue with an update, either from PD or WIN or graphics drivers, ... and you'll be scratching your head and maybe even using 'choice language' to describe your situation (lol). Trying to minimize that is good and I think we all 'TRY' to do that. But.... it's bound to happen - just wanted to forewarn you on this.

CS

Yes, very true. The whole IT world can be very frustrating for people like me who don't know enough. But then again, so are modern cars - full of safety beeps, inaccessible engines, and windows without handles.......

But the great thing is that forums like this exist and total strangers will help you fix things and share their knowledge. Much appreciated, PD Forumites!

Cheers I'm not young enough to know everything.

Cars and cameras...... as far as trying to do things for me that .. I didn't ASK IT TO DO!... lol

DON'T get me started!!! My HVAC system in the car - I swear - wants to 'think for me' and it drives me crazy! Cameras are getting that way - sometimes ok.. sometimes I'd like that control.

I've hi-jacked your thread enough.. I do apologize.

PepsiMan - Thanks for the links and info!

CS <---- agree there are many, many good folks on here that can offer a lot of information! (most of the time good info even.. lol) PD13 Ultimate - Build 3516, WIN 8.1, 64 Bit, 16G RAM, Intel Core i5 4460, CPU @ 3.2GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GT720, Graphics Memory(total avail.)-4093MB
LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive

Hi, CS!

I'm in agreement here, Technology is getting too far ahead of itself in many respects. Video cameras of the analogue age had a lot of user-controlled settings(focus, lighting, etc.) but a lot of today's digital models seem to have taken away that control from the user. I'm afraid it's the fault of the "boffins"! These are people who dream up, then build these gadgets with their whiz-bang features that are for more than an average user of the technology would want, or even need. I think it's past time technological advance was reined in.

Cheers!

Neil.

Thanks a bunch PepsiMan - got the CPU-Z working. Had to dl both the zip and the setup file. Initially just dld that setup file and it didn't work (just by itself). Interestingly it tried to open PD13 and then had an error. So I dld the zip file and everything worked out then.

Thanks again - looks like a Haswell CPU here.

And it appears from that link you have about the CPUs affected by dl-ing WIN10 - the Haswell is not affected (at least it's not mentioned - just the Skylake was mentioned as having to upgrade to WIN10 by July). So does this mean that I do NOT have to dl WIN10?

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Quote: I'm looking for a stable, ...set up. Windows 10 Home 64.

I thought you wanted stable? I hope some Win10 people chime in. What little I'm hearing, Win10 and PD are fighting. Mostly because MS has yet again, screwed up another OS.

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