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barefootguyinco61
Newbie Location: Colorado Joined: Feb 08, 2016 22:28 Messages: 14 Offline
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Hi all, as some may know, I've been having a lot of problems with editing in pd14, and am currently working with tech support to hopefully find the problem. But I'm wondering how I can further improve my system for more speed especially when editing in hd preview, as I always editi full hd videos. I want the fastest system I can get, using what I already have for a mobo, hopefully. I've done a lot of reading and am still confused on whether or not I have enough memory, although I think I do. Anyway, here's my system specs-


  • System-
    Dell Precision Workstation T7500
    Dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo

  • 24gb memory, 1.35V PC3L-10600 RDIMM DDR3 1333 with tons of slots left open

  • AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, brand new

  • 256gb SSD

  • 4tb 7200 rpm HD

  • 9 total cooling fans,

  • 1100 watt power supply

  • Windows 10 Pro 64 b

    Some of my thoughts are to add another internal ssd drive for the video files, while running the program off another ssd. I'm doing that in a day or 2, but would it benefit me to run windows 10 off one ssd, the program off another, and the files on a 3rd?
    My memory is a little slow, but to buy a new mobo and all new memory would be expensive, so trying not to do that.

    I'm also thinking I might could do better for the graphics card since my main concern is editing and not gaming, but not sure. Thoughts?


Currently my software performs pretty poorly I think, considering the system I have, and I think its some small software setting, system setting, etc. I can only edit in normal preview resolution, real time right now as anything higher and my video gets really slow, and way behind the sound. But if I pause the video for one second and restart, it's back in sync, but only for about 1-2 seconds. So if the video card is the issue, I'll gladly replace it. I've probably spent 30 hours trying to make this program work right and am on the verge of selling it and using adobe premiere cc since I can also use our library Imac computers with this program. I tried editing my videos on the iMacs and it was a dream, except I have to go to the library and I want to work from home.

Hope you guys have some good suggestions. System- Dell Precision Workstation T7500, dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo, 24gb DDR3 1333mhz memory, AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, 10 total cooling fans, 256gb SSD, 4tb 7200 rpm HD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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"using what I already have for a mobo"

What's a mobo? Regards,
Dan
Power Director 21-Ultimate
v 21.0.3111.0
XPS-8940, Win-10 64-bit,
Intel Core i9-10900 processor
(10 core, 20M Cache),
32GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 PCIe NVME SSD, 2TB 7200 RPM SATA HDD,
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 07, 2012 09:15 Messages: 1303 Offline
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Quote: "using what I already have for a mobo"

What's a mobo?


Dan, I'm confused about this too! or maybe it's a typographic error. Hey, barefootguyinco61, can you please clarify for Dan and myself what a "mobo" is?

Cheers!

Neil.
barefootguyinco61
Newbie Location: Colorado Joined: Feb 08, 2016 22:28 Messages: 14 Offline
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Mobo=Motherboard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobo System- Dell Precision Workstation T7500, dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo, 24gb DDR3 1333mhz memory, AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, 10 total cooling fans, 256gb SSD, 4tb 7200 rpm HD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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Thanks... Regards,
Dan
Power Director 21-Ultimate
v 21.0.3111.0
XPS-8940, Win-10 64-bit,
Intel Core i9-10900 processor
(10 core, 20M Cache),
32GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 PCIe NVME SSD, 2TB 7200 RPM SATA HDD,
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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The biggest improvement would be a much faster processor.

Your current CPU:

Dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo

2.93 Ghz is not the fastest on the block. I don't know if you are getting full use of two processors.

You would benefit with a 4 core or more 3.5 to 4+ Ghz processor (an Intel i7). The would probably mean a new motherboard.

You would have to spend a ton of money to get a good improvement.

I don't think ssd drives help for Video Editing, the access time is not a factor. The current Hard drives are plenty fast.

I doubt your video card is the bottleneck, the bottleneck is the CPU.

I tried editing my videos on the iMacs and it was a dream, except I have to go to the library and I want to work from home.
Powerdirector does not run in an iMac without the Windows emulator. I do not know what editing program you are using on the iMac, I bet it is not Powerdirector. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

barefootguyinco61
Newbie Location: Colorado Joined: Feb 08, 2016 22:28 Messages: 14 Offline
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No, I said this "and using adobe premiere cc since I can also use our library Imac computers with this program." meaning I ran adobe premiere on the imacs. I also tried out final cut pro as they have that and imovie, which I didn't try. System- Dell Precision Workstation T7500, dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo, 24gb DDR3 1333mhz memory, AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, 10 total cooling fans, 256gb SSD, 4tb 7200 rpm HD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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I think someone already give you the answer and you are looking for something you want to hear perhaps? You want the fastest CPU possible like an I7 with the highest memory bandwith you can afford. Powerdirector is a consumer grade grade software and wont fully benefit from a fully buffered system (workstation). So, what you want it's speed. That being said, you can spend thousands on a system and still have bugs with PD. Good luck! 4790K / Asus Z97i-Plus / 16gb (2-8gb)crucial @1866 Mhz / Samsung ssd 840 pro 250gb / Samsung 850 evo 250gb M.2 / 2-4tb HGST 7200rpm raid 1 / Nvidia GTX 1070 founders) / corsair RM650 PS / LG BD-RE
barefootguyinco61
Newbie Location: Colorado Joined: Feb 08, 2016 22:28 Messages: 14 Offline
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No, I'm considering the one option which is a new motherboard and cpu, and was just clarifying that I know PD doesn't run on an iMac.

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to try out adobe premier online tonight and if it can run fine, then it's worth the monthly price for me. If not, I'll just edit on the free and new iMac at the library until I can afford an entirely new hp z820 or something (just have seen that recommended multiple times). System- Dell Precision Workstation T7500, dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo, 24gb DDR3 1333mhz memory, AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, 10 total cooling fans, 256gb SSD, 4tb 7200 rpm HD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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I have the T3500 with just one CPU slot fitted with a six core (12 with HT) X5650 - same socket LGA 1366. I have added the 1100W PS from your T7500 when I was using a Radeon.

I strongly recommend looking into a pair of six cores (socket LGA1366) for your setup (ebay). Your quad CPU's are from a 45nm generation, you can get the ones from the 32nm generation - keeping same power envelope, you get two more physical cores.

Also to dump that Radeon (on ebay) and get a GTX 960 - that Radeon is good for games, not so much for video editing. GTX960 has the latest video decoder/encoder (same with GTX950), don't get anything else for video editing.


As for the 6 cores, X5660, X5670, X5675 have the advantage of lower power envelope (95W), your current coolers are sufficient.
X5680 or X5690 have higher frequency but higher power (130W) and they might get in thermal throttling during high use with your present coolers, so won't be more useful.
Links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Westmere-EP.22_.2832_nm.29_Efficient_Performance
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/28144/Intel-Xeon-Processor-5000-Sequence#@Server
http://ark.intel.com/products/series/47915/Intel-Xeon-Processor-5600-Series#@Server

What I also did, I bought (from ebay) one of Dell's RAID controllers (hardware) and I am using 3 HDD in RAID 5 - double the speed and redundancy. Not that it would help too much, HDD speed doesn't affect too much the encoding process, bottle neck is somwhere else. Use Task Manager -> Performance to see the actual usage %.

Memory, over 8GB is useless for this program, it is not used.

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barefootguyinco61
Newbie Location: Colorado Joined: Feb 08, 2016 22:28 Messages: 14 Offline
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Sonic, thanks so much, that's what I was looking for. Since I got Adobe running just fine, for now I'll stick with that program instead, but still plan to upgrade in the future, so I'll copy this info to word for that time.

Ran Cinebench on my system last night and I scored 993, so was decent.

Anyway, finally got Adobe Premier running and it works PERFECTLY, so I'll be switching. Guess it's more optimized for my workstation system. Good luck everyone, and thanks for the help. System- Dell Precision Workstation T7500, dual Intel Xeon X5570 4 core processors with hyperthreading enabled, running at 2.93 ghz, or 3.33 in turbo, 24gb DDR3 1333mhz memory, AMD Radeon R9 380 GPU, 10 total cooling fans, 256gb SSD, 4tb 7200 rpm HD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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Your system is very good for video editing, don't worry about a new computer. Those Dell Precision are monsters, made for workstation duty. I am not sure if Premier can use multiple video cards, Windows 10 allows for that (even mixed from ATI and nvidia), that would be my next upgrade on that system.


Disclaimer: I am kind of envious about that

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