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Supress Chapters Menu in Creating Disc.
dhnj [Avatar]
Member Joined: Jan 30, 2010 11:14 Messages: 55 Offline
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I have a test project with 2 Titles with 10 Chapters each.

Is it possible to start the Titles Video with the Titles Menu only

and not via the Chapters Menu, as you can jump to the Chapters

with the Next Button when the Title Video is started.

I have no need for the Chapters Menu.
Anja the Dane
Contributor Location: Denmark (North of Copenhagen) Joined: Mar 03, 2011 15:02 Messages: 347 Offline
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If I understand you right - You want to make a dvd where you you use the the 2 titles as entry points?
If so, I think if you make your 2 titles as 2 Projects an them import the 2 procects when create disk.
Though I can't figure why you have those many chapters if you don't want to use them to select a special chapter? PDR 14.0.4207.0 / Windows 10 64-bit / Asus / Intel i7-4790 3.60 GHz / 16GB RAM / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 / DirectX 12
dhnj [Avatar]
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Quote: If I understand you right - You want to make a dvd where you you use the the 2 titles as entry points?
If so, I think if you make your 2 titles as 2 Projects an them import the 2 procects when create disk.
Though I can't figure why you have those many chapters if you don't want to use them to select a special chapter?


If I understand you right - You want to make a dvd where you use the the 2 titles as entry points? Correct

If so, I think if you make your 2 titles as 2 Projects an them import the 2 procects when create disk. This is exactly what I have done.

In Power Director 13 when you use the Title Menu you will automatically get Chapters Menu too if you have Chapters in your Titles.

You should be able to suppress the Chapters Menu. This is possible in other Authoring Software Applications I use.
Anja the Dane
Contributor Location: Denmark (North of Copenhagen) Joined: Mar 03, 2011 15:02 Messages: 347 Offline
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As I see it, from your responce You don't need the chapters when you have finish editing so why don't you just remove all chapters in Manual Chapter Settings, can be done at one click.

Then, if you don't want to to delete chapters and split in 2 Projects then delete chapters add a chapter where the second title starts.

I know this not optimal but I think it Works. PDR 14.0.4207.0 / Windows 10 64-bit / Asus / Intel i7-4790 3.60 GHz / 16GB RAM / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 / DirectX 12
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi dhnj -

I'm with Anja on this. I can't see why you have chapters at all if you want to ditch the chapters/titles page of the menu.

I think if you follow the steps Anja described above - import your two chaptered projects into Create Disc - then select a menu with 10 buttons - you'll get close to what you're after. The menu structure is show in the attached screenshot.

If you UNcheck "Include Root Menu" you'll get even closer.

When the disc starts you'll get a page like the one attached (import chaptered projects) and when you select "Project 1" you'll get a page like the attached (project 1 in preview).

Cheers - Tony
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dhnj [Avatar]
Member Joined: Jan 30, 2010 11:14 Messages: 55 Offline
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Hi Tony

Many thanks for your feedback.
I have some photos I would like to
attach but I cannot do so, as I get
an attachment menu where I cannot
make a link to the photos which I have
not seen before.
Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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Quote: Hi dhnj -

I'm with Anja on this. I can't see why you have chapters at all if you want to ditch the chapters/titles page of the menu.


Hi Tony,

I'm with dhnj on this. There's avery good reason for having chapter points without buttons assigned to them:- it allows the viewer to use the player 'Skip' buttons to skip forward and back through the title. A typical use for this would be to skip through a slideshow. In the third-party authoring program I use for standard DVDs I can set chapter points at specific points such as the beginning of each slide or generate them automatically at, for example, 2-minute intervals. I also have the option of assigning menu buttons to any, or none, of them. It would be nice if the PD menu creator had facilities like this but, as I've suggested in the PD14 forum suggestions thread, I think the whole of this module needs a complete rewrite. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
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dhnj [Avatar]
Member Joined: Jan 30, 2010 11:14 Messages: 55 Offline
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Attached please find 2 photos showing

how my other Authoring application

has delt with Chapters Menu Off or On.
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Anja the Dane
Contributor Location: Denmark (North of Copenhagen) Joined: Mar 03, 2011 15:02 Messages: 347 Offline
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OK, your other Authoring application deal with Chapters Menu Off or On. (You don't tell the name of your other application - why?)
PowerDirector doesn't for the time beeing - make a suggestion!

If that chapter hing is very importent to why don't you just use the other application in the meantime?


But maybee PowerDirector offers you a lot that your other application doesn't?

I admit it would be nice to have influence of evrything - and by the years I've been using PowerDirector it has improved and improved. I'm sure CL are lisitening to users suggesting.

happy editing

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Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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Anja,

My problem is that my third-party application doesn't handle Blu-Ray so for that I'm forced to use PD. I have posted in the suggestions thread on the PD14 forum, not to ask specifically for that function but to suggest that the whole menu creation module needs to be re-thought from the bottom up.

The third-party application can do so much more than PD and is so much easier and more intuitive to use that it would be great if it could be updated to handle Blu-Ray. I still use it whenever I want to produce a standard DVD. Although by no means a Pro product it looks more polished than the one shown by dhnj. Unfortunately it was the work of a single genius individual whose interests have moved elsewhere. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
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dhnj [Avatar]
Member Joined: Jan 30, 2010 11:14 Messages: 55 Offline
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I have only created Blu-ray discs with the other authoring applications I use, even 1080/50p.

While testing PDIR 14 i found a lot of errors in PDIR 13 which I have documented and sent to

Cyberlink Support. PDIR 14 is very much better than PDIR 13 with regards to Disc Authoring.

I have attached the PDIR 13 error documentation sent to CL Suport.

I have not mentioned the other applications I use, as I cannot promote other software vendors

on this CyberLink Forum.

Send me a PM if you want to know the other applications I use.
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Anja the Dane
Contributor Location: Denmark (North of Copenhagen) Joined: Mar 03, 2011 15:02 Messages: 347 Offline
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Hi dhnj & Fenman

I understand that you think it is smart to jump through the chapters - and I'm sure it is, though, I have never had to use this facility when I watch video or slide show.

I must admit that I do not particularly enjoy the PD's disc menu module, but I am generally happy to use the PD program.

<Quote>Fenman wrote:My problem is that my third-party application doesn't handle Blu-Ray so for that I'm forced to use PD.</quote>
No one is forced to use PD and I am sure, of course if money is not a problem, you can find a professional video editing program that can satisfy your needs.
As well as you had put a suggestion to CL -
You may get the developer of your third-party application to add a BlueRay module - have you asked them.

Hope you both find a solution I can live with.
Cheers, Anja PDR 14.0.4207.0 / Windows 10 64-bit / Asus / Intel i7-4790 3.60 GHz / 16GB RAM / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 / DirectX 12
Anja the Dane
Contributor Location: Denmark (North of Copenhagen) Joined: Mar 03, 2011 15:02 Messages: 347 Offline
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Hi dhnj,
Watching our lines crossed.

Quite interesting test report you attached. maybe I should upgrade undecided

<quote>I have not mentioned the other applications I use, as I cannot promote other software vendors on this CyberLink Forum.</quote> - no, of cause you can't! sealed PDR 14.0.4207.0 / Windows 10 64-bit / Asus / Intel i7-4790 3.60 GHz / 16GB RAM / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 / DirectX 12
Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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Quote: You may get the developer of your third-party application to add a BlueRay module - have you asked them?


Hi Anja, take a look at the last sentence of my second paragraph above . . . . . wink

I am forced to use PD's menu creator only because I haven't yet found a satisfactory alternative. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64
YMC [Avatar]
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I'm with Fenman on re-thinking on the Authoring tool "from the bottom up". Edit part of PD is done ok, but Authoring part is total failure, by many reasons. Obvious need for separating Chapters list from menu list should not lead to support team answers "Why do you need it?". If support team do not see difference here, it says a lot about support team "professionalism", and makes me doubt in the product future.
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I believe the common logic is that disc are soon to be obsolete. I hope they are wrong. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote I believe the common logic is that disc are soon to be obsolete. I hope they are wrong.
Don't tell The Movie makers in Hollywood California that DVD is dead, they output thousands of DVDs and Bluray discs each year.

http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/home-entertainment-spending-2015-studios-1201673329/

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Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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Quote I'm with Fenman on re-thinking on the Authoring tool "from the bottom up". Edit part of PD is done ok, but Authoring part is total failure, by many reasons.


Thanks YMC, it's good to know I'm not alone in that opinion. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64
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