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Retaining GOPRO HERO 3 footage quality during export with PD13.
Yellow78 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Sydney Joined: Oct 13, 2015 18:30 Messages: 11 Offline
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Quote: Sounds like you got everything I said

Happy editing!




Your a champion mate!

After a few years using this GoPro and PD13 (now 14) without any satisfaction in terms of quality output, hopefully my next video turns out heaps better than previous attempts. Thx heaps!!!
AlS
Senior Member Location: South Africa Joined: Sep 23, 2014 18:07 Messages: 290 Offline
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Hi AlS, thx for contributing to my posts!

Ok sweet, I get how the AVI files are uncompressed and have no loss of quality but Im curious why you trim in GoPro Studio? Couldnt you just convert all your clips you want to edit to AVI, then insert to PD13 then trim from there too? Or is it to save space cause converting a whole clip will produce larger files?

I will give your editing workflow a go as I do also have GoPro Studio installed on my PC! Also, am I right in thinking that Protune is a setting that produces videos that is equivalent to RAW files in Photography? A file that has RAW data, can be manipulated (WB, color temperature, sharpness, exposure etc) without ever loosing quality?


Hi - I trim in GPStudio as I often have hours od GoPro footage and only use a few minutes so I have smaller files for PDR13. You will notice that GPstudio will not edit until all files have been converted to AVI using the Cineform codec. This is because the files from your camera are highly compressesd (MP4) and not good for editing.

I then take it a step further and use GPStudio to slo-mo and color correct the clips if needed (the Cineform AVI files are 10 bit color depth for more accurate adjustment) and save the clips as Cineform AVI. The file sizes are now larger than your MP4 files because they have been decompressed so that every frame is now a keyframe - which is much better for editing. Import the AVI files into PDR13 and produce your final product. GPStudio is a very limited and basic editor but excellent for trimming, adjusting and converting to Cineform.

You are right. PROTUNE is very close to RAW and better for the reasons you mentioned. It was specifically developed to use with Cineform and when you import the Protune clip into GPStudio you will see in the bottom right corner a Preset specifically for Protune. To me the result is a more accurate and color realistic result than the color correction done in the GoPro camera on non-Protune files. I am truly amazed at what these tiny cameras can produce. I'll PM you my email for further GoPro discussions and to compare notes.

Al Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
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Yellow78 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Sydney Joined: Oct 13, 2015 18:30 Messages: 11 Offline
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Hi AlS, thx for contributing to my posts!

Ok sweet, I get how the AVI files are uncompressed and have no loss of quality but Im curious why you trim in GoPro Studio? Couldnt you just convert all your clips you want to edit to AVI, then insert to PD13 then trim from there too? Or is it to save space cause converting a whole clip will produce larger files?

I will give your editing workflow a go as I do also have GoPro Studio installed on my PC! Also, am I right in thinking that Protune is a setting that produces videos that is equivalent to RAW files in Photography? A file that has RAW data, can be manipulated (WB, color temperature, sharpness, exposure etc) without ever loosing quality?


Hi - I trim in GPStudio as I often have hours od GoPro footage and only use a few minutes so I have smaller files for PDR13. You will notice that GPstudio will not edit until all files have been converted to AVI using the Cineform codec. This is because the files from your camera are highly compressesd (MP4) and not good for editing.

I then take it a step further and use GPStudio to slo-mo and color correct the clips if needed (the Cineform AVI files are 10 bit color depth for more accurate adjustment) and save the clips as Cineform AVI. The file sizes are now larger than your MP4 files because they have been decompressed so that every frame is now a keyframe - which is much better for editing. Import the AVI files into PDR13 and produce your final product. GPStudio is a very limited and basic editor but excellent for trimming, adjusting and converting to Cineform.

You are right. PROTUNE is very close to RAW and better for the reasons you mentioned. It was specifically developed to use with Cineform and when you import the Protune clip into GPStudio you will see in the bottom right corner a Preset specifically for Protune. To me the result is a more accurate and color realistic result than the color correction done in the GoPro camera on non-Protune files. I am truly amazed at what these tiny cameras can produce. I'll PM you my email for further GoPro discussions and to compare notes.

Al




Thanks for the advice buddy! Will give this a go after work and will surely give you an email if I run into any problems with this workflow. Thanks again!
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