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Zabo [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 09, 2015 07:51 Messages: 9 Offline
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I am trying to use PowerDirector to create a slide show from photo stills, and I have an annoying problem:

I insered the pictures into 2 timelines the way that I want it, and I syncronyzed it to an audio track. Now, when I add transitions by dropping them from the Transition Room, the timeline "shrinks", and I loose the sync with the audio and between the timeline tracks.



Is there a way to keep the timeline integrity while adding transitions?
Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hi, Zabo!

In answer to your question: "Is there a way to keep the timeline integrity while adding transitions?", sorry, no, there isn't. This is common to many, or even all makes of video editing software. Each time you add a transition, you shorten the length of your video by the amount of time of the transition, e.g.: Transition time = 2 seconds; 5 transitions inserted, duration shortened by 10 seconds.

Best method might be to place all the clips(images) on the master video track, then add your transitions, then add your images onto the overlay(PiP) tracks, then add your audio. If the images are stills, compensate for loss of time by setting the stills times longer on the master video track, so that when you add your transitions, the amount of time lost comes back to the running time you initially invisaged.

Hope that's useful to you.

Cheers!

Neil
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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Neil is correct. It looks like that you already have the images on the timeline the way you want. Try this: Instead of using the default transition type overlap, change it to cross in the preferences. Any transition you add from now on should not shorten the timeline.

Let us know if this fixes the problem for this project.
Zabo [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 09, 2015 07:51 Messages: 9 Offline
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Tomasc,

Your suggestion to change default transition type to "cross" worked. Thank you.

Now, along the same subject, when I "slide an image over its neighbour's time I get an option to "crosfade", which inserts the fade transition. However, when I stretch an image's time over its neighbour I do not get the crossfade option.

Is there a way to get the crosfade option in case #2?

Is there a way to automaticaly create a transition in both of these cases?
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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I'm sure that there are other ways to edit and add transitions. I have always done mine manually after selecting overwite the image on the right. I drag the fade transition between the two.
Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hi, Tomasc,

I'd like to know that trick! It might come in handy.

Cheers!

Neil.
Zabo [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 09, 2015 07:51 Messages: 9 Offline
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I have a question regarding the "cross" default transition behaviour.As
stated in my earlier reply, this option does indeed keep the timeline
in tact, but the crsossfade transition behaves differently when motion
is applied.With the overlap default the motion in both photos continues throughout the transition. With the cross default the motion stops alternately while the transition continues. This looks jerky.Is this the way it is supposed to work?Is there a way to change that? I like the motion to continue as long as the fading object is still visible.
tomasc [Avatar]
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Using the fade cross transition between 2 photos and I see a gray out and what appears to be a slight overlap of 2 images which I did not expect. The timeline length does not change with the cross fade transition. I see the same thing using 2 video clips with the cross transition which again is not expected. That overlap is expected only when an overlap fade transition is used.

Other users have reported other unwanted behaviors with the cross fade transition in the PD forums like a fade to black and then to the other image whereas I get gray instead. Still others report that the motion between two video clips freezes in the center momentarily of the cross fade transition. I do not get that either.

Beleive that an Intel processor with sse4 or later, brand of video card and it's driver, preference settings for hardware accelleration could affect what is displayed in the preview. I rarely use the cross transitions and changed from overlap to cross in preferences only for this testing in this post.

I am with Neil on this one as I and other users do things the way he described as I started a long time ago when consumer video editing was in it's infancy. See the attached video and stll photo comparison. Again, I do not see the problems some other users see with the cross transition being used. Produce a short segment of your timeline with the cross transitions and see if the unwanted behaviors are still there. The produced slideshow video should be okay without the unwanted behavior even if you see it in the preview. Hopefully!

Let us know if this helps and what you see.
 Filename
Overlap transition.wmv
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 Description
overlap fade transition between two video clips (motion)
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198 Kbytes
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178 time(s)
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Photos cross.wmv
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 Description
cross fade transition between two photos
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180 Kbytes
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192 time(s)
 Filename
Cross transition.wmv
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 Description
cross fade transition between two video clips (motion)
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210 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
169 time(s)
Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hi, Tomasc!

You've just given me a good heads-up on what to avoid when editing. I don't see that "crossfade" feature vailable in PD8(probably just as well, too). I think, even though it shortens my videos' overall length, I'll stick to my usual practice with transitions. I'm curious to see if there are any more transition styles in PD14 than there are(or were) in PD7 and PD8. I'm currently using PD8(Ultra) and had previously used PD7(Delux).

Cheers!

Neil.
Zabo [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 09, 2015 07:51 Messages: 9 Offline
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I have attached two samples of the transitions (fade cross and fade overlap).

I believe that this is a bug (issue) with PowerDirector. It has nothing to do with the hardware.

It looks like the problem only exists when the two transitioned images have motion applied by PowerDirector.

In the case of fade cross, the fading out motion stops when the "border" is reached, and the fading in motion only starts when the "border" is reached. (I hope this makes sense). So, for the duration of the transition itself, only one of the two photos is in motion at any given moment. This makes it look jerky. It looks fine if the two images are still or have their own motion.

In the overlap fade, both photos are in motion during the entire duratiion of the transition.

Now. Is this working as designed or is this a "bug"?
 Filename
Fade Overlap.mp4
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 Description
Fade Overlap Transition of Magic Motion photos
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 Filename
Fade Cross.mp4
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 Description
Fade Cross Transition of Magic Motion photos
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18034 Kbytes
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120 time(s)
Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hi, Zabo!

I haven't downloaded your images as I'm trying to avoid doing video downloads as it chews up my data reserve. I get 4 gigabytes every 45 days(pre-paid) from Virgin Broadband, yes, it does roll over, so before I download anything, I make sure I have a sizeable data reserve first, so I may download your clips later. But from what your saying, I hope I don't run into the same problem. It's the reason that, even with PD14, I'll stick to the same routine that has served me well through PD7 and PD8.

Cheers!

Neil.
Jeff6307 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 15, 2016 16:24 Messages: 1 Offline
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I'm having the same issue with cross transitions. I didn't notice this until after PD14 downloaded the patch the other day. But cross transition is adjusting the video clip making the words and mouths out of sync. If I allow PD 14 to automatically generate the random transitions, this doesn't happen. Only happening when I manually select the transition. My video shrunk by 2 seconds.
Anonymous [Avatar]
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Sorry, the poster here seems to be anonymous, anyway, to the person concerned, your video shrunk by two seconds because you used a two-second transition in overlap, rather than cross. The out-of-sync situation is unusual as it shouldn't be happening if the audio is from the camera itself(native audio, in other words) and if the video is on the "master" video track(Tr.#1).

Just a tip though, even if you use a pseudonym, we on the forum like to know to whom we address our replies.

Cheers!

Neil.

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