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georgesz99 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 31, 2015 11:40 Messages: 44 Offline
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Hi all



My abilityto drag clips on the timeline is a little clumsy and so I have searched in vain for how you can key in the details.

So far all I can find is that you can overtype the duration of a clip ... which is excellent but... I need to overtype the start time of a clip



For example I have a title section which ends say 10:00 so the video clip starts at 10:01 but I want an additional clip on another timeline to start also at 10:01 so that it is in sync with this video clip... how do i do that?



thanks



george
The Shadowman
Senior Contributor Location: UK Joined: Dec 15, 2014 13:06 Messages: 1831 Offline
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Hi George

If you place your cursor on the timeline so you see a little clock with two arrows. Moving the cursor along the line you will see it has times showing - move it until the time shown is what you want then right click and select "add timeline marker". This action will leave a blue marker on the timeline and you will now be able to easily move your clip to it.

I hope this helps you Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
georgesz99 [Avatar]
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thanks for that but that is the problem I refer to... first you have to move it along.. oops I just went past the time.. carefully come back... next I right click.. blast... its moved on a couple of milliseconds... its no good for poor eyesight and clumsy hands...
The Shadowman
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Try expanding the timeline - left click on the timeline until you see the clock with arrows again - hold the left mouse key down and drag the clock to the right and you will see the timeline expanding Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
The Shadowman
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Milliseconds????

The timeline details are: 00;00;00;00

Column one - hours
Column two - minutes
Column three - seconds
Column four - FRAMES PER SECOND Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
georgesz99 [Avatar]
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thanks for that clarification... you know what I meant...

I appreciate your help but it still seems not as accurate and easy as keying numbers in... but I guess the developers didn't feel that was too important...
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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The Shadowman supplied the best answer. Expanding the timeline allows you to check for accuracy in placing the second clip below.
Let us know if you still have this problem.

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The Shadowman
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George

I think the problem would be that there is too much going on in the timeline at any one time, items would get in the way.

Expanding the timeline a lot allows you to place the image, or whatever, within 1 frame and that is quite easy to achieve. I do agree that with the timeline unexpanded it is difficult for our old eyes and shaky hands Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
tomasc [Avatar]
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Keep expanding the timeline and then click on that timeline marker. Click on the clip below and start to drag it left or right. A vertical back line appears for you to drop it. That second clip will then start exactly where you dropped it.
JL_JL [Avatar]
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georgesz99, if it's of any help, you can enter a exact time in the timeline counter directly below the preview window. HH:MM:SS:Frame in either movie mode or clip mode since it appears that you know the exact timecode relative to this. The timeline scrubber will jump to this exact timecode specification and then you can do a Shift+M to add a timeline marker.

Zoom in as previously discussed to move desired clip(s) into exact place.

Jeff
The Shadowman
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JL_JL

The problem with this method is it only appears to work within a clip and not outside of one, which, unless I am misunderstanding, George's plight, will not do what he wants.

Maybe I am not seeing something Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
optodata
Senior Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Sep 16, 2011 16:04 Messages: 8630 Offline
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Quote: The problem with this method is it only appears to work within a clip and not outside of one, which, unless I am misunderstanding, George's plight, will not do what he wants.

Maybe I am not seeing something
The method works anywhere except past the end of the last clip. You can only type in the final frame of the project - maybe that's what didn't work?

As I re-read OP's original request, it's to easily sync (align) a the start of a clip on another track with the start of an existing clip. George, can you check under the Preferences (gear icon) menu and make sure that you have Enable snap to clip in timeline checked, like this:



When that box is checked, dragging a clip along a track will automatcially snap it to every clip transition that you drag it past.

It's actually better to do this when you're fairly zoomed out because you only need to have the starting edges close for the snap to take over. You'll see a black vertical line appear and the dragging motion will kind of snag, and all you need to do is release the mouse button and the clips will be perfectly aligned.

Let us know if this helps. If you need more ways for moving clips with just the keyboard, this *post* may be what you're looking for cool

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georgesz99 [Avatar]
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thanks optodata ... you have my needs exactly right... however although snap is checked.. it doesn't snap nor do I see any black vertical line no matter how slow I go...

The shadowman - Col 4 frames per second I cannot quite grasp.. I have three objects on two time lines set to 00:00:30:24 00:00:41:01 and 00:41:00:00, the latter two appear aligned so what is the significance of the frames per sec??

thanks
optodata
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Hi George

I've put together a quick video that shows what the black line looks like and how the whole "snap to" feature works. Towards the end of the video, I also show that zooming all the way in if you're close to where the clip is can let you place the clip with perfect, 1-frame-at-a-time accuracy.

You can watch it right here, and to see it full screen just click on the YT logo near the bottom right of the window:



I have to leave for the day now, but I sincerely hope this helps you with your editing. Good luck! laughing

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The Shadowman
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Hi George

Frame rates not to be confused with shutter speeds.

The frame rate is the number of separate frames in each second of video taken by your camera, whereas the shutter speed is the amount of time the shutter is open to expose each frame. For instance a shutter speed of 50 will expose each frame your camera takes for 1/50th of a second. Ideally, the shutter speed is around double the frame rate.

I don't know where you are located, but generally if, like me, you are in PAL TV region your ideal frame rate would be 25 or 50, however, if you are living in an NTSC region your best frame rate would be 30 or 60 fps. These differences are caused because of the different frequencies used in the two regions ie PAL 50Hz and NTSC 60Hz.

So far as PD is concerned, optodata has told you that by zooming right in to the timeline it is possible to edit down to an individual frame, but you should be aware, for clarity sake, of the following: If you zoom in on the timeline and watch the frame rate column on the counter while you move it along, you will see that it will return to zero after 25 or 50 or maybe 30 or 60. In other words whatever frame rate your camera used will be shown in that column. For example if you used a frame rate of 25, the column will return to zero after showing 25. (this assumes you have the framerate in PD set to the same as your camera fps)

Basically, if your are editing down to a single frame at say, 60fps you are editing 1/60th of a second of your video.

To answer your specific question: If you have a clip ending at 00:00:41:01 and a second one in another track beginning at 00:41:00:00 you would have a 1 frame overlap.

I hope this helps you

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