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DustinMax [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jul 14, 2015 11:28 Messages: 11 Offline
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Here's our latest project. Hope you enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ua6eeywh8w

Any feedback would be great. I know the green screen is awful, I was using curtains. Need to buy a proper one or drop it alltogether.



Any tips and tricks would be great.

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jcardana
Senior Contributor Location: USA-NM Joined: Aug 04, 2014 10:11 Messages: 650 Offline
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I only took a glance because the audio of you guys talking is really bad (in my opinion).

You need external microphones. I'm assuming you're using a camera with a built-in Mic. Does it have plugs for external mics? If so, find anything that will work. You don't need a $1000 mic. Just something that's closer to you so it's not picking up the sounds of your voices bouncing off the walls. If you're hanging curtains to produce a green screen, hang some more around the room to kill echos. Not flat, you need them bumpy like when your normal curtains are open. Maybe someone else can recommend sound dampening ideas?

Just my $1.16 advice

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DustinMax [Avatar]
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Thanks for the feedback.

We used a snowball to record the sound. It was set up just out of shot.

Maybe it was a little to far away?
jcardana
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Is this what you're using... http://www.bluemic.com/snowball/

I skimmed through the manual. It never states how close or far it should be from the sound source. The photos show the mic within arms reach. Try to keep it as close as possible so you both sound good. If you watch any professional singer/DJ/Radio host who uses a mic, it's right up to their mouth. It's ok if the mic is in the shot, but it shouldn't be covering your face. CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


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jcardana
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I took another look... Your method of green screen works fine to me. I never thought it was annoying.

The Intro is so much louder than shots of the movie and your review dialog. If everything is in different clips, have you tried "Normalizing" the track in the Audio Room? CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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I agree with what jcardana said about the sound quality of your review dialog.

I would suggest you try lapel Microphones one on each of you. Lapel Microphones are not very expensive, they can be as little as $10-$25 each for camcorders. Even at that price the quality is remarkable.

http://www.parts-express.com/cat/lavalier-microphones/760

The expense comes if you have to mix two microphones into one input. Mixers are expensive.

You can also use a single handheld Microphone and hand it back and forth, to the person speaking.

I second the opinion of nothing bad about having a Microphone in view, everybody knows you must have some kind of microphone.

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jcardana
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Quote: I agree with what jcardana said...
Thank you Carl. It's a great feeling to be validated. I agree with you about the lapel mics. A bit more hassel, but worth it. CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


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DustinMax [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jul 14, 2015 11:28 Messages: 11 Offline
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Quote: Is this what you're using... http://www.bluemic.com/snowball/

I skimmed through the manual. It never states how close or far it should be from the sound source. The photos show the mic within arms reach. Try to keep it as close as possible so you both sound good. If you watch any professional singer/DJ/Radio host who uses a mic, it's right up to their mouth. It's ok if the mic is in the shot, but it shouldn't be covering your face.




Yes, that is the one. I will keep it in shot next time then.
DustinMax [Avatar]
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Quote: I took another look... Your method of green screen works fine to me. I never thought it was annoying.

The Intro is so much louder than shots of the movie and your review dialog. If everything is in different clips, have you tried "Normalizing" the track in the Audio Room?




I normalised everything except the intro. Can't remember the resoning why. Will normalise everything next time.

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DustinMax [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jul 14, 2015 11:28 Messages: 11 Offline
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Quote: I agree with what jcardana said about the sound quality of your review dialog.

I would suggest you try lapel Microphones one on each of you. Lapel Microphones are not very expensive, they can be as little as $10-$25 each for camcorders. Even at that price the quality is remarkable.

http://www.parts-express.com/cat/lavalier-microphones/760

The expense comes if you have to mix two microphones into one input. Mixers are expensive.

You can also use a single handheld Microphone and hand it back and forth, to the person speaking.

I second the opinion of nothing bad about having a Microphone in view, everybody knows you must have some kind of microphone.




I have some lapel mics, but no mixer yet. I was looking to buy a professional standalone microphone recoreder with lapels when I could afford it. Will try with the snowball nearer next time and see if that does the trick.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Getting the snowball closer would help. having it in between the two of you may be close enough.

The review part of the video had a lot or room echo, which is caused by too much distance from the speaker and having a room with hard surfaces.

On the sound recorder there are many good ones that range in price from about $50 and up. Search Google and Google Shopping for sound recorders should get a lot of hits. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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