Best 4K video editing monitor for $400-$600?

tpallred1

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Jul 29, 2015 20:29

http://lifehacker.com/five-best-4k-computer-monitors-1712678664

I'm building a system for 4K PD13 editing and would like to get a monitor in the $400-$600 range. I'm using an Acer IPS monitor for my current 1080p editing and like that but their 4Ks are expensive. The 24" or 27" Dell IPS monitors in the link above are in my price range and look okay. Someone who already does 4K editing suggested going with the Samsung on that list but it's a TN display so I don't know if that's okay. Anyone using something in my price range that they really like? It would be nice from the price point to go with the 24" but I'm wondering if the 27"/28" monitors would be better. This system will only be used for photo/video editing, not gaming or general applications. Tom
i7-4790K, Asus Z97-A, 16GB RAM, GTX 960, SSDs, Monoprice 28" 4K CrystalPro, Acer 23" 1080p H236HL - Full system at http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kYxw23

GGRussell

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Jul 30, 2015 00:28

Amazon has a Samsung 28" (U28D590D) for $455 Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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tpallred1

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Jul 30, 2015 02:30

Yeah, I know the prices but what would help is recommendations with reasons why to choose one over the other. Tom
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GGRussell

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Jul 30, 2015 11:53

most will be personal choice. DO you need VESA compatibility? Do you need vertical/horizontal/height adjustments. TN vs IPS vs VA type display depends on you. Better side angle view, better contrast or better screen response time. Each of the display types have their strength and weakness. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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tpallred1

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Jul 30, 2015 12:36

Gary, I had to laugh. I know they have different prices and different specs, so yes there are choices. I'm looking for recommendations, hopefully from someone that has experience with one or more 4K monitors in this price range. Maybe no one does and it will come down to me choosing on specs and price. Rather than just doing that I'm seeking advice first. Tom
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jcardana

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Jul 30, 2015 13:37

The only thing I can offer...

Try to get a good horizontal dot pitch. My Hitachi 21" has a .22mm dot pitch. Nice clear images.

It seems monitor mfg these days don't list dot pitch anymore in the specs because it's so high, it can't be a selling point.

I suggest staying under .33mm dot pitch, that way you shouldn't actually "see" the pixels.

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jcardana

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Jul 30, 2015 13:46

tpallred1

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Jul 30, 2015 13:47

Dot pitch = pixel pitch? Newegg is pretty good about listing that in the upfront specs. Most of the ones I've been looking at have .16mm so that's good, right? Tom
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jcardana

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Jul 30, 2015 13:51

Quote: Dot pitch = pixel pitch?

Yes

Quote: Newegg is pretty good about listing that in the upfront specs.

Good, I love NewEgg! I haven't been monitor shopping, so I didn't know.

Quote: Most of the ones I've been looking at have .16mm so that's good, right?

tpallred1

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Jul 30, 2015 15:05

Quote: Also, have you read Wikipedia?

Apparently DCI 4K is not the same as UHD. Cheaters!

Well, I didn't read ALL of wikipedia...

My real goal at this point, because 4K isn't widely in use, is to shoot/edit in 4K and render into 1080. If I'm reading correctly - and what are the chances of THAT?

- then the UHD is really the best choice to shoot in because it has the same 16:9 ratio as 1080p. For the drone camera I'll mostly be shooting with, UHD is currently producing better results than their DCI 4K setting. And yeah, at least 90% of the monitors in my price range are UHD 4K. Thanks for the warning though. I appreciate anything that helps me make a more informed choice. Tom
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jcardana

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Jul 30, 2015 18:19

Quote: ...shoot/edit in 4K and render into 1080

AlS

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Jul 31, 2015 05:48

Quote:

Quote: ...shoot/edit in 4K and render into 1080

If I'm remembering correctly, some people here suggest shooting in the res you plan to render to. Somthing about not loosing quality in the conversion. This may also be something to get advice on and consider.

It is confusing - at best. If he is rendering to HD I don't see the point of a 4k monitor - even the prieview window won't display 4k.

In theory if you output HD you will have better quality with 2k or 4k clips if you zoom, pan, or crop. 2k has twice the resolution of HD and 4k four times so using 2k you could zoom or crop half of the frame and still have HD, and 4k down to a quarter of the frame.

This is true in other edit software but I'm not sure if PDR13 will give you the same results. Other forum members have suggested that PDR13 gives best quality when input equals output - if you want HD out you should use HD source vids and pics. So I am still confused.

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jcardana

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Jul 31, 2015 09:45

Quote: In theory if you output HD you will have better quality with 2k or 4k clips if you zoom, pan, or crop.

tpallred1

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Jul 31, 2015 22:23

Quote:

Quote: ...shoot/edit in 4K and render into 1080

If I'm remembering correctly, some people here suggest shooting in the res you plan to render to. Somthing about not loosing quality in the conversion. This may also be something to get advice on and consider.

Special circumstances plus future-proofing. I won't beat you to death with all the details but I'm using the Yuneec Q500/Q550+/4K quadcopter. Their "HD" might be upscaled 720 with in-camera stabilization. One of the problems with this is aliasing. Their 4K camera, which will be significantly cheaper to buy than a different quad - and I really like the actual quad and gimbal - doesn't have this problem. The 4K output rendered to HD looks much better than their current "HD". As 4K monitors become more prevalent, I'll do more 4K rendering. If I shoot everything in 4K I can always go back and re-render in 4K. Also, yes, I can crop the 4K for HD results. More details but that's the gist of it. If I bought a HD monitor now then I'm looking at extra expense for a 4K monitor later. Then again, sometimes I get confused... What were we talking about? Oh yeah, 4K monitor recommendations.

Tom
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gene

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Oct 15, 2015 00:22

id definitely go with the Samsung

gene

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Oct 15, 2015 00:24

I don't have a specific model to recommend, but it shouldn't be hard to find what you're looking for http://pc4u.org/best-monitor-for-photo-editing-and-photography/

tpallred1

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Oct 16, 2015 01:57

After much thought I went with a dual monitor setup having a 28" UDH 4K monitor with a second monitor 23" HD1080p. Still getting used to it but I''m learning to like it. Tom
i7-4790K, Asus Z97-A, 16GB RAM, GTX 960, SSDs, Monoprice 28" 4K CrystalPro, Acer 23" 1080p H236HL - Full system at http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kYxw23

josephine123

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Dec 02, 2016 07:02

Personally I prefer Dell. Good quality. Nice price. I use it for web and photo editing. Great text and picture quality for a sub-4K monitor; excellent wide viewing angles; great anti-glare coating (semi-matte/semi-glossy); very good gaming performance; modern style; compact stand but still sturdy and stable; good physical adjustments; USB 3.0 hub/ports.
but if you're not sure that you can become a Dell fun, check some authority reviews, such as:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402114,00.asp

http://www.144hzmonitors.com/best-photo-editing-monitor-2016/

http://www.bestadvisor.com/best-monitors-for-photographers

http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-monitor-for-photo-editing-10-top-models-tested-and-rated-1320778

https://turbofuture.com/computers/Under-500-Photo-Video-Editing-Monitor

https://photographylife.com/best-monitor-for-photography

Also, no dead pixels, a good thing. If you're debating between this and a Apple Thunderbolt display I would highly recommend buying this product and save yourself $500+

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Dec 02, 2016 14:30

Deleted - look at the dates for the original posts and what follow up there was to the original poster's question.

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