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Disappointing Quality of GH4 4K Footage to DVD
Mark - UK [Avatar]
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Thanks for all your help guys!
AlS
Senior Member Location: South Africa Joined: Sep 23, 2014 18:07 Messages: 290 Offline
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I will install a Blu-ray burner and report back.

But is part of the "problem" with DVD playback quality down to the encoding codec used? That is, a superior codec will yield superior results? I'm a complete novice when it comes to video editing but shouldn't a DVD authoring piece of software allow you to manipulate for example, the bitrate?
If you use an external Disk burning software you can produce a High bitrate Mpeg-2 video, then using external burner software produce about 10 Megabit DVD Video disk.

In Powerdirector 12, I made a custom Mpeg-2 720x480/60i at 9.8Megabits Profile to use for making High bitrate DVD Videos. I use my Nero Burning ROM software to burn the DVD Video.


Thanks Carl - that expalins my problems too.

Interesting that PDR13 can't write same 9.8Mb quality as cheaper and even free software does (I assume ImgBurn can as well).

We should ask Cyberlink to fix their software instead of using 3rd party to do it correctly.

DVD's are still the easiest way to distribute vids for home viewing and we all want the best quality possible.

May not be relevant but I have found that if I render vids to MPEG2 first and then import rendered file into PDR13 and Create Disk my DVD quality is definately better than Create Disk from original timeline- but I have no idea why.

Any idea what PDR13 is giving us on AVCHD and BLURAY? As good as Nero?

Thanks again

Al

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But is part of the "problem" with DVD playback quality down to the encoding codec used? That is, a superior codec will yield superior results? I'm a complete novice when it comes to video editing but shouldn't a DVD authoring piece of software allow you to manipulate for example, the bitrate?
If you use an external Disk burning software you can produce a High bitrate Mpeg-2 video, then using external burner software produce about 10 Megabit DVD Video disk.

In Powerdirector 12, I made a custom Mpeg-2 720x480/60i at 9.8Megabits Profile to use for making High bitrate DVD Videos. I use my Nero Burning ROM software to burn the DVD Video.


Thanks Carl - that expalins my problems too.

Interesting that PDR13 can't write same 9.8Mb quality as cheaper and even free software does (I assume ImgBurn can as well).

We should ask Cyberlink to fix their software instead of using 3rd party to do it correctly.

DVD's are still the easiest way to distribute vids for home viewing and we all want the best quality possible.

May not be relevant but I have found that if I render vids to MPEG2 first and then import rendered file into PDR13 and Create Disk my DVD quality is definately better than Create Disk from original timeline- but I have no idea why.

Any idea what PDR13 is giving us on AVCHD and BLURAY? As good as Nero?

Thanks again

Al




As a complete novice and someone who's still on the month's trial of the software, I'm aware that there are other products available and I mainly bought PD13 on the basis of various reviews.

Like was said earlier, DVDs are probably still the main way that we share our videos from events such as weddings. Maybe this question is inappropriate on a Cyberlink forum, but it still warrants being asked: are there products which offer a better quailty of recorded DVD playback? If there are, why isn't PD at least matching them? After all, what would you rather have, a million and one fancy transitions which are almost indiscernible from each other or the best quailty output available without resorting to twisting and turning rendered outputs through third party software vendors?

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Mark - UK - I did not know why you did not produce 4k video but insisted on a dvd. The trial version doesn't support 4k. See this link for the trial limitation of no 2k/4k of h.264 files : http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/powerdirector-ultra/download_en_US.html . Click the Product Limitation tab. You can't create an avchd disc with the trial version.
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I don't have the trial version, but the fully paid up one. I do however get a thirty day money back guarantee.

As was said by ALS in an earlier post, "DVD's are still the easiest way to distribute vids for home viewing and we all want the best quality possible."

This is my position (I need to distribute a DVD of a family event), hence the concerns regarding the quality of recorded DVD and subsequent discussion.

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Mark - UK


I understand your disappointment with the DVD quality PD13.

I already complained several times about it here.


PD has better quality for file Progresivo so I use this whenever possible, put the DVD in PD is always converted to give Interlace have a picture degradation.


So I use another sofware to create DVD-video.


Example that the PD DVD rendering is below.


I edit one video Sony camcorder, SD (MPEG2 DVD standard) use SVRT not render.

1 - Even for this video that is interlaced, PD will render to lower the bitrate of 9 to 8 Kbps. it has image degradation.

2 - Video thereof Sony camcorder in FullHD, rendered to MPEG2 using the same settings of the original Sony MPEG (In PD) has lower quality.

If I rendering to progressive got better image quality however has blur to motion picture.

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Mark - UK [Avatar]
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Just to say thank you to all those (jcardana, Carl312, Myk and Longedge) who suggested I install a blu-ray burner and go down that route. I followed your advice and the difference between DVD and blu-ray recorded quality from a (GH4) 4K source is quite dramatic. DVD quality was quite disappointing from PD13 but blu-ray is very, very acceptable!

Thanks also to everyone else who made it an interesting discussion and helped out a complete novice.

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