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Why is my movie so big (MB/GB)
someonelikeme [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2015 20:31 Messages: 6 Offline
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I'm completely new to this so I am probably doing something wrong ...

I recorded footage from VHS as .mpg then produced a movie that is 1 hour 9 minutes long. When I try to create a DVD the produced movie is more than 10GB which of course does not fit. But I'm wondering, most movies on DVD are over an hour so why does mine not fit. Is it a setting somewhere that controls the format or compression for the output?

Thank you for any feedback you may have.
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What are you "Produce" format and settings details in PD? Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate
someonelikeme [Avatar]
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File format: MPEG-2
Quality: DVD HQ 720x480/60i (8 Mbps)

or do you mean under Edit>Preferences...?
off - Reduce video blocky artifacts
on - Reduce video noise when using MPEG-1, MPEG-2 ....
off - Allow SVRT on single IDR H.264 video.
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Generally 1 hour of DVD-HQ = 1 single layer DVD.
Edit: Sorry, had to run before completing my post. I should not have hit the post button!

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Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline
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1. If you select SVRT what settings does PD offer you ?
2. In many cases when video is captured the bit rate may be set much too high for the caliber of the original being recorded. I suspect yours may be as well. When you look at the "poperties " of your original clips what is the bit rate shown ?
3. When producing video that originated from a VCR bit rates of 5000 or less are more than adequate since the originals cannot contain more image detail (bit rate=detail). Win 10, i7
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Something is amiss, as I have just captured 57 minutes of VHS and my MPEG2 at 8,300 bitrate is only 3.23 GB.
Are you saying your captured MPEG2 file is 10GB?
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Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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someonelikeme [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2015 20:31 Messages: 6 Offline
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I am speaking about the output being over 10 GB.

Here are the properties for the source files

There are 3 source videos which have the same properties except for bitrate. Sizes are 1.42GB, 687MB & 3GB. I captured them from VHS using the PowerDirector default/installation settings. While editing I split and removed significant portions of the source video.

Video properties
Bitrate: 2 are 7.06 Mbps and one is 5.08 Mbps
Resolution: 720x480
Frame rate 29.97 fps
Aspect Ratio 4:3
Frame type: interlaced

Audio properties
Type: Dolby Digital
Sampling rate: 48kHz
Bitrate 256Kbps
Channel: Stereo


I also inserted several .png files for title screens. They are about 800k each (which I could reduce but have not thought to until now).

Thank you all for the responses so far!
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Please provide Full Media Properties for your source and output files.

Seach for MediaInfo in the following post if you need help in how to do that.
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/29701.page

That will give everyone an exact "picture" of your video files - without the picture Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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What is confusing to me is a produced MPEG2 file of only 1 hour +- at the "normal" bitrate should be nowhere near the 10Gb you have.
After producing, the source files really do not matter anymore. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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someonelikeme [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2015 20:31 Messages: 6 Offline
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I'll get together the full information as EKSVid suggested and post. Will also look at other productions and see if I'm having the same problem. Then I'll break this project into parts and see if that helps yield some clues.

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi someonelikeme -

When you say 10MB, do you mean only the produced 1hr 9min video file? or does the 10MB include a disc menu?

As you & the other contributors have posted, the file size seems completely wrong for the content & properties of the produced file.

Cheers - Tony
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someonelikeme [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2015 20:31 Messages: 6 Offline
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BarryTheCrab, the estimated output file is >10GB. See responce to ynotfish for detail

HDedit, SVRT suggests MPEG2 720x480, 29.98, 5,074K. Entire video requires rendering.

ynotfish,
> I mean the amount of MB/GB that will be written to disk. As you and others have pointed out it just seems wrong but, what I am seeing is the indicator at the bottom left of the screen (there is a disk symbol and a temperature gage) that shows 10675 MB / 4700 MB. I take that to mean I have a 10.6GB file to output to a 4.7 GB disk. If I press Burn in 2D>Start Burning I get a message that says in short, 'the disk is 4706 and the estimated production is 10675'.
> I have created a disk menu so I guess the answer is 'yes'


I was going from Edit straight to Creat Disk but since tried Produce and got 5 GB files - still too much and more than I would think for 1 hour 9 minutes
DVD HQ 720x480 60i 8 Mbps gave me a 5.13 GB file
MPEG-2 720x480 24p 8 Mbps gave me a 5.09 GB file so the same

A attached the MediInfo output for the DVD HQ 720x480 60i 8 Mbps file

 Filename
mediainfo.txt
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
3 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
346 time(s)
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote: DVD HQ 720x480 60i 8 Mbps gave me a 5.13 GB file

Your media info shows 1h 23mn, not 1hr 9 min, the file size is correct at ~5GB for DVD HQ, so no, it will not fit on a single layer DVD without a reduction in Mbps from the value of ~8Mbps. You could use a dual layer DVD, it will fit on that.

For your issue of 10GB+ size estimate. Please post a pic of your "Create Disc" screen, from what's written it really appears like you are selecting AVCHD Disc type with a HD profile which will result in a 10+GB estimate for 1hr 23min of video that you created with DVD HQ 720x480 settings in Produce.

Jeff
someonelikeme [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 21, 2015 20:31 Messages: 6 Offline
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OK, I'm looking for a way to say I missed it enven though I was looking for a way to control the output format I didn't find it till tonight. Somehow I never looked on the the Create>2D tab but once I did I lowered the output quality and size went down well below 4.7GB. Disk is burned.

Sincere thanks to all of you for taking the time to help!
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