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cannot toggle audio fade-in button in audio mixing room
Bill5050 [Avatar]
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I'm trying to lower the audio volume in a single clip. I select the clip, make sure the selector is positioned at the beginning, then go to the mixing room and lower the volume slider. Then when I play back the clip it automatically fades the volume up to the original level. I notice that the fade in button is white. I click it but it does not deselect. It doesn't appear to be a toggle switch. I've tried every way to get it to disable without success. I cannot believe that something a simple as this can be so difficult to achieve. Anyway can someone tell me what I need to do to get these fade-in fade-out buttons to deactivate?
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cannot toggle audio fade-in button in audio mixing room

The image shows the track 1, the volume is active in the control room, also fade In this active, fade Out must activate when going to the end of the clip.
I see an error PD in your project's some clip showing audio and video separate horizontal.
It is with them that you have the error ?

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Bill5050 [Avatar]
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Don't understand what you are saying. What error? The video & audio are linked and appear together on track 1. My problem is that no matter what I do, I cannot get rid of the audio fade in. Clicking on the button activates it but there is no way to deactivate it.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: Don't understand what you are saying. What error? The video & audio are linked and appear together on track 1. My problem is that no matter what I do, I cannot get rid of the audio fade in. Clicking on the button activates it but there is no way to deactivate it.

Try right clicking the audio track > Restore original volume level.

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My problem is that no matter what I do, I cannot get rid of the audio fade in


Carl312 show the way but common.

Add Fade-in audio, marked in the image.

Don't understand what you are saying. What error?


The error I mentioned, is the PD program, is marked in the image.


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Bill5050 [Avatar]
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Carl, I have used the right click restore original volume. But that only gets me back to square 0. The problem of being unable to toggle the fade in & out remains. Cannot believe that the software contains this basic flaw Yes I can lower the volume by selecting each side of the audio line but that is a clumsy way of doing things. The more I use this program the more it's crippling shortcomings become apparent. I paid good money for it but am ready to toss it and move on to something more polished & finished like maybe Adobe. Every time I use the wave editor it starts up in a completely different application. There is no accept button. Yet if you click the x in the upper right hand corner to exit it warns you that the you forgot to save. Completely kludegy. And there are many such instances when using the program where there is no accept process and confirmation that what you have done has been executed. In the wave editor there is no master volume control. You wind up doing the same process of selecting the two ends of the audio line and dragging them down. Totally unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

Not being able to simply lower the volume in a clip? Come on!
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Bill5050


You did not answer my first question.

The problem is when you select this clip I showed the picture or is for any clip?

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Newbie Joined: Feb 25, 2015 02:28 Messages: 1 Offline
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Carl312 show the way but common, the best, also catch the white ball in the audio line, left side (fade in) and drag up until the middle.. ???? GuL
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Quote: I'm trying to lower the audio volume in a single clip

Verify that the clip has no keyframes (white dots) on the horizontal white line.

Select the clip, then open the AUDIO ROOM.
Drag the vertical audio slider to the desired level and note that the line moves accordingly and stays flat (no fades).

Do not click the FADE IN or FADE OUT icons during this process.
As the clip plays note that they light in turn at the beginning and end of the clip - where a fade in/out might occur if desired.

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there are no keyframes that I know of. I am not that far along to know how to use them yet.

When I follow your instructions, only the left side of the audio clip moves to the desired level. The manual says to make sure the position indicator is at the beginning of the clip and that I have done.

When I then play it the volume gradually reaches the original level. Am I doing something wrong?
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You seem to be doing everything correctly. My test is in PD11, but 12 should be the same unless a bug was introduced in that version. Someone else will confirm.

Both an Mp4 and a wmv 15' clip were tested. Each was placed on the timeline with the scrubber (red line) at its start. (Click preview STOP button.)

Then the AUDIO ROOM was opened and the active slider was pulled down to 25%. The clip's white line on the timeline lowered accordingly - and was totally flat.

When reviewed on the timeline, audio gain had been reduced and was consistent throughout the clip.



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cuartetto [Avatar]
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Quote: there are no keyframes that I know of. I am not that far along to know how to use them yet.

When I follow your instructions, only the left side of the audio clip moves to the desired level. The manual says to make sure the position indicator is at the beginning of the clip and that I have done.

When I then play it the volume gradually reaches the original level. Am I doing something wrong?


I had this problem once, it turned out that I had the "auto level control" "level" turned on in my computer audio system.

O\If the level line in the time line gradually increases, that could mean that there is a bullet somewhere down the line. They must all be cleared for the level to remain constant.
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here is a video of the problem.
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cuartetto [Avatar]
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Quote: here is a video of the problem.


I can duplicate your problem. Two clips on the time line. On clip one, put a level bullet at the end of the clip. Move clip two to the left to overwrite clip one for a short duration. Changing the level slider on clip one will only effect from the beginning because the level bullet is at the end, just not visible.
Right click on clip one, click "Restore original volume level". That corrected the problem for me.
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@Cuartetto,
Thanks for taking a look. I don't understand exactly what you suggest that I do, though. Can you be more specific to my particular movie? Tks...
cuartetto [Avatar]
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Quote: @Cuartetto,
Thanks for taking a look. I don't understand exactly what you suggest that I do, though. Can you be more specific to my particular movie? Tks...


On the timeline for MVI-0951, right click on the audio timeline and left click click on "restore original volume levels".
Bill5050 [Avatar]
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I've done that many times already and it doesn't change the problem.

To simplify things I loaded a fresh single clip into a new project. Then went to the audio mixing room and moved the audio1 slider. It only effects the left side (beginning side) of the clip. The right side remains in place, unmoved. In effect, there is no master video volume adjustment available (aside from a 2 step process of going to the timeline & first moving the left side, then the right). That's the only conclusion I can come to. It seems to be an inherent flaw in the design of the software.
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Quote: I've done that many times already and it doesn't change the problem.

To simplify things I loaded a fresh single clip into a new project. Then went to the audio mixing room and moved the audio1 slider. It only effects the left side (beginning side) of the clip. The right side remains in place, unmoved. In effect, there is no master video volume adjustment available (aside from a 2 step process of going to the timeline & first moving the left side, then the right). That's the only conclusion I can come to. It seems to be an inherent flaw in the design of the software.


I have PD12 and it works like you think it should. I select a clip, go to the audio mixing room, the slider for the track is highlighted. When I push it up or down, the level changes for the entire length of the clip.

Perhaps others might have another suggestions.

At this point I would probably re-install PD.

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As far as I know PD12 does not have the ability to adjust the volume of audio as a whole, have to set the beginning and end of the video clip.
Note:
Does this only for music.

For video you need to unlink video from audio.

This does not facilitate are many clik's.

but can be done

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Bill5050 [Avatar]
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Thanks to both of you and the others for the help.
Cuartetto says he has PD12 and the audio adjustment works fine.
Playsound says that PD 12 does not have the ability to adjust the volume level as a whole.
Can someone from Cyberlink please confirm one way or the other?
Anyone else having the same problem?
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