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Black 0,0,0 Media on timeline again after saving and reopening project
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Hi folks,

I thought this had been fixed, ok I have updated to 2403 and I have tested dragging many videos into the timeline, saving the project, closing PD, reopening the project and bam, like the picture attached nothing is saving, all the video is 0,0,0 files. It was working fine with 2319 but now not with 2403, guys can I re-install the 2319 patch back over 2403 to restore the 2319 version?
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files not saving after saving project and reopening the project.
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301 Kbytes
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Quote: Hi folks,

I thought this had been fixed, ok I have updated to 2403 and I have tested dragging many videos into the timeline, saving the project, closing PD, reopening the project and bam, like the picture attached nothing is saving, all the video is 0,0,0 files. It was working fine with 2319 but now not with 2403, guys can I re-install the 2319 patch back over 2403 to restore the 2319 version?

Do not move or delete the files in a project.

Powerdirector does not save the actual file in the project. It just records pointers in the pds file to where the actual files are located.

If you have the files on removable media, copy those files to a folder on your hard drive.
Them import into Powerdirector.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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Quote:
Quote: Hi folks,

I thought this had been fixed, ok I have updated to 2403 and I have tested dragging many videos into the timeline, saving the project, closing PD, reopening the project and bam, like the picture attached nothing is saving, all the video is 0,0,0 files. It was working fine with 2319 but now not with 2403, guys can I re-install the 2319 patch back over 2403 to restore the 2319 version?

Do not move or delete the files in a project.

Powerdirector does not save the actual file in the project. It just records pointers in the pds file to where the actual files are located.

If you have the files on removable media, copy those files to a folder on your hard drive.
Them import into Powerdirector.



NO, I am not moving them I am doing the save and reopening straight away for testing purposes, so its and issue with PD and the latest version is the worst, I wonder if anyone knows if there is a limit to how many GB od video files will be able to reopen from a saved project etc, does anyone know PDs limitations like that?

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The limit is 2500 total files in folders and subfolders in earlier versions for the preview area.
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Quote: The limit is 2500 total files in folders and subfolders in earlier versions for the preview area.
i wonder what the GB limit is, before i could import 120 gb fine now it wont even do 50gb footage Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/inspectagame
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It handles larger single long files but not lots of short ones it wont handle more than 20 files when before it was handling 50+ totalling 120gb.

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Please provide a screenshot of the edit workspace and information on where the media files are located. Any external drive is subject to local address recognition issues and sd cards should not be used to retain source project material.
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Quote: Please provide a screenshot of the edit workspace and information on where the media files are located. Any external drive is subject to local address recognition issues and sd cards should not be used to retain source project material.
Dafydd


Hi Dafydd, ok screenshot of a reopened saved project only moments ago, files in library should all obviously be ticked but all the references are 0,0,0, the second screenie is my SSD recording drive, which as you can see is N:\RECORDINGS drive. I click import media files from that directory, they all go in, I save the project, close PD reopen it and this is what I have every time.

btw its a connected SSD not external
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the recording directory
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581 Kbytes
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70 time(s)
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reopened saved project.jpg
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 Description
reoppened saved project
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304 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
65 time(s)

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Please can you also attach a screenshot of a "before" event to show the track thumbnails appear?

This is the beta patch right and not the released patch? The issue should have been in the beta thread - I can see why it wasn't as I hadn't posted the beta information on the forum until 1:46 and you had the beta before that via the downloader.

Dafydd

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Quote: Please can you also attach a screenshot of a "before" event to show the track thumbnails appear?

This is the beta patch right and not the released patch? The issue should have been in the beta thread - I can see why it wasn't as I hadn't posted the beta information on the forum until 1:46 and you had the beta before that via the downloader.

Dafydd


OK, here are four images, the first is the files imported and dragged onto the timeline, the second are the files in the recording folder, 25 files and 99gb in size, the third image is the saved project. and the fourth image is the reopened project with 6 files on the timeline for the first time, the 6 files are a total of 37.7gb, now thinking there are size limitations, thanks Dafydd.
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the files from the source drive used
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338 Kbytes
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61 time(s)
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imported-files-and-dragging-onto-timeline.jpg
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dragging the files onto the timeline
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439 Kbytes
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69 time(s)
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saved project.jpg
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the fimal saved project
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463 Kbytes
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57 time(s)

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Reopened project image here (4th image)
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reopened project
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384 Kbytes
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70 time(s)
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Basically you've located a beta bug. Please can you provide the MediaInfo on an avi - the info will help CL. See Part J in the guide.
All we can do on this issue is pass it along to CyberLink to deal with.
Dafydd

That's one "f"
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Quote: Basically you've located a beta bug. Please can you provide the MediaInfo on an avi - the info will help CL. See Part J in the guide.
All we can do on this issue is pass it along to CyberLink to deal with.
Dafydd

That's one "f"


Media info on one of the files used, thanks again Dafydd

General
Complete name : N:\RECORDINGS\thief 2014-11-23 17-37-18-162.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 4.22 GiB
Duration : 18s 210ms
Overall bit rate : 1 989 Mbps
Original source form/Distributed by : Video:ffdshow Video Codec Audio:Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Writing application : DxtoryCore ver2.0.0.127

Video
ID : 0
Format : YUV
Codec ID : YUY2
Codec ID/Info : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Duration : 18s 183ms
Bit rate : 1 991 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 60.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Compression mode : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 16.000
Stream size : 4.21 GiB (100%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 18s 210ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 3.33 MiB (0%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 99 ms (5.96 video frames)

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Thanks inspectagame ,
I have passed everything onto CyberLink to deal with. I doubt you'd get this bug fixed until maybe the next beta release or later. You may want to consider restoring to before the beta patch - uninstall/reinstall of PDR13.
Dafydd
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Quote: Thanks inspectagame ,
I have passed everything onto CyberLink to deal with. I doubt you'd get this bug fixed until maybe the next beta release or later. You may want to consider restoring to before the beta patch - uninstall/reinstall of PDR13.
Dafydd


Thanks mate very much.......

** UPDATE **


I have a stupid suspicion this may be related to media filename length, I tried another group of avi's (see pic) the filenames were created by me, that was an intro I did and I renamed all the files, so I dragged them all into the timeline (28 avi's) 75GB worth, and this is actually the reopened project file.

I did save the project on the desktop and I saved it by typing in "a.pds" yes I typed the whole .pds also. I reopened the project and as you can see they work, and the only difference is that the filenames are shorter.

Just a though, but thanks guys for your help
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it worked with shorter filenames on the original files
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DELETE LAST POST - False Alarm, Issue is still occurring, makes no difference with short filenames! Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/inspectagame
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