Updates PowerDirector 12 to build 3403

PlaySound

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Oct 30, 2014 06:44

http://www.cyberlink.com/support/powerdirector-ultra/patches_en_US.html

2014-10-28
Updates PowerDirector 12 to build 3403
Install this patch update enhances the program stability and fix issues.

Updates:
Enhances program stability.
Supports copying and pasting text between title templates in the Title Designer.
Supports Hardware Encoding for Intel+NVIDIA hybrid platforms with NVIDIA driver v340.52 or later.
Fixes the issue that when burning 3D-BD discs the first play 3D video becomes a 2D video.
Fixes the issue that video snapshots are not saved if the option “Don't prompt me to confirm file name” is enabled.
Fixes the issue that PowerDirector 12 particle effects go in the wrong direction when “Gravity” is set as “-1” with keyframe.
Fixes the issue that videos in the MultiCam Designer are not synced properly when using the audio analysis function on LPCM audio clips.
Fixes the issue that audio and video of a clip are unlinked after Scene Detection.
Fixes the issue that PowerDirector 12 crashes when using PowerDirector 13 Wedding pack in the Theme Designer.

link and text copied from the official website.

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Oct 30, 2014 11:12

Thanks!! Daniel Saxer
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Richmond Dan

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Oct 31, 2014 15:14

I have the GeForce GT720 card using driver 332.35. I'm running Windows7 64-bit.

Will this patch now allow me to safely update to the latest driver (344.48 WHQL, Release Date: 2014.10.22)? Regards,
Dan
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borgus1

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Oct 31, 2014 15:31

Safety isn't an issue with the latest drivers - hardware encoding capability has been. Yet, according to Playsound's post, that has been corrected in the latest build.

Install it, and the latest NVidia driver if you wish, and see if hardware encoding is enabled (for selected formats) in the PRODUCE area.

If not, it's possible to roll back to the prior driver via Control Panel|DEVICE MANAGER|DISPLAY ADAPTERS|<your adapter>|DRIVERS tab.

http://geforce.com/drivers (NVidia)

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Richmond Dan

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Oct 31, 2014 17:03

I guess that's what I meant by "safely" (the ability to maintain hardware encoding capability). Yet I seem to have read that I'll probably get better results if I don't allow hardware encoding...is that correct?

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Regards,
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Oct 31, 2014 17:04

Richmond Dan

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Oct 31, 2014 17:07

I recently sent Dafydd Bevan - SoftDeko a PM, suggesting that he put a "sticky" to that effect at the top of the PD12 forum page. I don't think Cyberlink notifies you when an update is available. Regards,
Dan
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Julien Pierre

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Nov 02, 2014 06:38

This new build is not much help for those of us with AMD CPUs and nVidia cards.
One still needs to use old or hacked nVidia drivers.
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SoNic67

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Nov 02, 2014 08:40

Quote:
One still needs to use old or hacked nVidia drivers.

It was not an issue of "hacked" drivers. Is just adding some files that are missing from newer drivers, back in windows' system 32 directory.

However the patch info says:
"Supports Hardware Encoding for Intel+NVIDIA hybrid platforms with NVIDIA driver v340.52 or later".

To me it seems that it activates Intel encoding on hybrid platforms only, ignoring the nVidia. Is not fixing the CUDA encoder issue.
I didn't install it yet, my older Intel does not have the encoder hardware in CPU anyway (called Quick Sync), so I wouldn't know.

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ghines

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Nov 02, 2014 17:34

Hi,

Just installed 344.48 for my GTX 750Ti and the 3403 patch and it seems that the HA is now working as it should.

It also appears the CUDA encoder is being used as the GPU Load and Video Engine Load figures increase in GPU-Z when using HA.

BTW - I removed SoNic67's HA fix before installing 344.48.

Greg

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Julien Pierre

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Nov 02, 2014 19:16

Quote:

Quote:
One still needs to use old or hacked nVidia drivers.

It was not an issue of "hacked" drivers. Is just adding some files that are missing from newer drivers, back in windows' system 32 directory.

We can call it whatever we want, but the fact is that nVidia is no longer supporting this old CUDA video encoding API in their latest drivers. The old DLLs continue to work against the new drivers right now, but that might not be the case forever if nVidia makes further changes to the rest of their driver package.

However the patch info says:
"Supports Hardware Encoding for Intel+NVIDIA hybrid platforms with NVIDIA driver v340.52 or later".

To me it seems that it activates Intel encoding on hybrid platforms only, ignoring the nVidia. Is not fixing the CUDA encoder issue.
I didn't install it yet, my older Intel does not have the encoder hardware in CPU anyway (called Quick Sync), so I wouldn't know.

That's what I thought it might do too from reading the release notes, but the report from ghines above seems to imply that it is doing something else.

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Julien Pierre

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Nov 02, 2014 19:28

Quote: Hi,

Just installed 344.48 for my GTX 750Ti and the 3403 patch and it seems that the HA is now working as it should.

It also appears the CUDA encoder is being used as the GPU Load and Video Engine Load figures increase in GPU-Z when using HA.

BTW - I removed SoNic67's HA fix before installing 344.48.

Greg

Thanks, that's very interesting. What kind of Intel CPU do you have ? Does it support Quicksync instructions ?
And how high does the GPU load and video engine load go when encoding ?

I wonder if you could be so kind as to measure encoding speed for the following cases. Use the same H264 clip and just produce it without changes, using different methods. Measure the productiion time for each case.
1) software encoding . Ie. uncheck "Fast video rendering technology"
2) hybrid nVidia + Intel . Ie. check "Fast video rendering technology" and select "hardware video encoder"
3) Intel Quicksync alone - if your CPU supports it. For this, you would have to uninstall the nVidia drivers completely and run with a generic VGA/VESA video driver.
If you are willing to do that, you can use "Display driver uninstaller" :
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
This will remove the nVidia drivers completely, and all previous versions of them.
Be sure to temporarily disable the automatic driver lookup from the network in Windows too.
In windows 7, do this :
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2500967
Not quite sure in Windows 8 but there must be a way to do the same.
4) nVidia CUDA encoder alone. I'm not quite sure how you would test this, since you can't disable Quicksync in the CPU.
You could reinstall the previous PD12 build 2930 that didn't fix the issue.
This may require uninstalling PD12 first - the installer might not let you downgrade, but try it first.
Also, you would have to reinstall the nVidia drivers; and add back the NVCUVENC*.DLL files . Or just install drivers version 337 .

Yes, I know 3) and 4) are a lot of work to test, but inquiring minds want to know.

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SoNic67

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Nov 02, 2014 19:41

Quote: Just installed 344.48 for my GTX 750Ti and the 3403 patch and it seems that the HA is now working as it should.
It also appears the CUDA encoder is being used as the GPU Load and Video Engine Load figures increase in GPU-Z when using HA.
BTW - I removed SoNic67's HA fix before installing 344.48.
Greg

Thanks for the report! Can you do a search on your drive for nvcuvenc.dll and nvcuvenc64.dll ?

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ghines

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Nov 02, 2014 20:09

Thanks for the report! Can you do a search on your drive for nvcuvenc.dll and nvcuvenc64.dll ?

A search of the Windows directory for nvcuvenc*.dll shows in the image below

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ghines

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Nov 02, 2014 20:33

Quote: Thanks, that's very interesting. What kind of Intel CPU do you have ? Does it support Quicksync instructions ?
And how high does the GPU load and video engine load go when encoding ?

I wonder if you could be so kind as to measure encoding speed for the following cases. Use the same H264 clip and just produce it without changes, using different methods. Measure the productiion time for each case.
1) software encoding . Ie. uncheck "Fast video rendering technology"
2) hybrid nVidia + Intel . Ie. check "Fast video rendering technology" and select "hardware video encoder"

1) 18 secs. GPU Load peaking at 7% Video Engine Load 0%
2) 12 secs. GPU Load 22% peak, Video Engine Load 60% peak.

Sorry, but no time presently to do the rest of your requests.

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SoNic67

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Nov 02, 2014 20:49

My CPU doesn't have QuickSync. I applied the update. Then I deleted the three files from System 32 .
Hardware encoding didn't work anymore.

Probably in your case the Intel encoder is in use now. As for the GPU activity... Do you have preview active? I have Video Engine load only when I preview.

Since the CUDA encoder files are owned by nVidia, not Cyberlink, adding them back in PD it would require some level of licensing between the two.
Based on the fact that not even MPEG4 is licensed in PD (only MPEG2)... I won't keep my hopes up.
Another CUDA encoder available is the one from MediaConcept (used in Sony Vegas). Again, would involve some licensing and since PD12 is not the latest product... my bet is on not happening.

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JL_JL

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Nov 02, 2014 21:38

Quote: My CPU doesn't have QuickSync. I applied the update. Then I deleted the three files from System 32 .
Hardware encoding didn't work anymore.

Probably in your case the Intel encoder is in use now. As for the GPU activity... Do you have preview active? I have Video Engine load only when I preview.

Since the CUDA encoder files are owned by nVidia, not Cyberlink, adding them back in PD it would require some level of licensing between the two.
Based on the fact that not even MPEG4 is licensed in PD (only MPEG2)... I won't keep my hopes up.
Another CUDA encoder available is the one from MediaConcept (used in Sony Vegas). Again, would involve some licensing and since PD12 is not the latest product... my bet is on not happening.

SoNic67, I don't believe it has anything to do with QuickSync, ghines has a 750TI which is Maxwell architecture so I'm guessing his HA test was for a progressive format which will work, interlaced will not. To my knowledge, your Quadro 6000, Fermi architecture will not work with new drivers without a dll hack. My guess is the CL "Hybrid" note in the release is for laptops, totally different vs desktop graphic experience.

Hopefully CL, with PD12, will catch up with HA and the interlaced formats, at least for the more current cards.

Jeff

SoNic67

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Nov 02, 2014 22:16

Jeff, it might be true. Previously PD didn't "know" how to use the new nvenc (that is present in Kepler too). They had a beta MediaEspresso that could: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-680-review-benchmark,3161-16.html

More even, only recently was the nvenc enabled for GeForce cards (but just 2 streams), previously was limited only to the Quadro lineup. It was a licensing system based on some keys.

From his statement that Video Engine was at 60%, I guessed that he was using preview and that might use GPU too.
So we need to eliminate that from equation.

Also, at some point nVidia said that both encoders can work simultaneously. I wonder if adding the CUDA encoder files in the system will truly help the nvenc.

Sorin

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ghines

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Nov 02, 2014 22:39

Quote: From his statement that Video Engine was at 60%, I guessed that he was using preview and that might use GPU too.
So we need to eliminate that from equation.

Please note all the figures quoted were while rendering using a 1920x1080 25fps profile. Enable preview during production was disabled.

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ghines

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Nov 02, 2014 22:45

Quote: SoNic67, I don't believe it has anything to do with QuickSync, ghines has a 750TI which is Maxwell architecture so I'm guessing his HA test was for a progressive format which will work, interlaced will not.

Correct, my test was for progressive format. With the frame type set to "top field first" HA is disabled.

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