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Re:Aspect Ratio - Resizing in Preview [Unresolved Question]
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Huh? What's going on?

For the whole time I've been using PD (since about PD7), when you resized an image or video in the Preview screen Aspect Ratio was maintained. I'm not referring to the freeform handles.

If that's gone out the window, I've never heard or seen it mentioned. If it's gone out the window, that's a silly thing to throw away. I can find no reference to it in the Help file.

Have I missed something? or has someone else missed something?

In the screen capture below, at no time did I instruct PD to abandon the AR of any video clip... yet it does.



Grrrrr - Tony

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I confirm the same issue. Well spotted and something to watch out for. Definitely needs to get patched. Website
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Here checked with MPEG-2 and MTS file, it is maintaining the aspect ratio.
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ynotfish
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Hi playsound -

There's no need to upload a clip. Here, it occurs with EVERY clip I've checked... MPEG-2, MPEG-4, AVC, HEVC, WMV, Full HD, 2K, 4K... down to PD's sample "Boats" video.

Not a single clip maintains its aspect ratio when resizing in Preview. In PiP Designer, they behave as expected - maintaining AR until that option is unchecked.

Thanks for looking at it.

Cheers - Tony
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1Nina
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It's working "the old way" here, Tony,
working as it should with/without AR maintained.

Nina
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Who's on the demo / full version? I tried the demo and PD12 is still installed. Website
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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Phil -

Nina, playsound & I are all using the full version, but I think I must have the poor man's version.

Cheers - Tony
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Bhajje
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No problem with AR here, too. Jean-Paul

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Quote: Phil -

Nina, playsound & I are all using the full version, but I think I must have the poor man's version.

Cheers - Tony


It must be something fairly obvious. Do you still have PD12 installed? I do?

Thing is it worked yesterday! Produced a video. Now I try the same project and it doesn't keep the AR. Also another issue, one of my videos ends up being imported rotated 90 degrees.

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Hi Phil -

Yes - PDR12 is still installed as part of Director Suite 2.

And yes - I hadn't noticed it before this either. I would have because resizing in Preview is something I do fairly commonly. So - it's just "happened" recently.

Uninstall (via Control Panel) & re-install didn't help

I'm glad to read it's not a widespread problem.

Cheers - Tony
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Richmond Dan
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"I'm glad to read it's not a widespread problem."

If I were you, I'd prefer it to be widespread. Probably more apt to be resolved quickly by CL that way. But I realize you're being polite, not practical!

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I was thinking the same thing

I will just wait it out. Hopefully the trial last me until this is sorted. Website
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ynotfish, any news?

I did go ahead and bought the upgrade to PD13.

The audio synchronisation and quick normalize function are worth it to me

I'm currently downloading it all, then I will uninstall everything, use CL cleaner and install PD13 and report back.

EDIT: Bug remains.

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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I've got no news, neither confirmation or not from CyberLink, they're aware of both reports and the thread.
Dafydd

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Well the good news is that using "modify" still works, so it's not that big of a deal Website
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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Phil -

The news at this end is not good, & I have no idea why. After two recent re-installations of DirectorSuite 3 not only did the aspect ratio issue persist, but I had new issues emerge.

The silliest of these was that templates were displayed in incorrect categories - for example, in everyone else's Title Room there's a NewBlue category containing only TitlerPro 1.0 - right? My NewBlue title category contains 20 templates, 19 of which have NOTHING to do with NewBlue. These same templates were also found in EVERY other category.

So - out came the wrecking ball! I completely purged my system of EVERYTHING "CyberLink" (screenshot attached), carried out various housekeeping routines (cleaning registry, temp files etc), a number of cold boots... then re-installed DS3, expecting all to be well.

NO - PDR13 is now in the same mess it was before on this PC. At the other end of the desk is another PC with the same installation & no such issues.

It turned out that every misplaced template (not just titles) was either downloaded or custom (i.e. not part of the DS3 installation), so I resolved that be deleting them from the disc. Gone! Phut!

So - the root cause is obviously something I changed on this PC, because the aspect ratio issue only "happened" recently. I'm not sure how that relates to your (Phil) confirmation of the problem.

PDR13, and ADR, CDR & PhD are all functioning correctly (apart from the AR resizing problem) as far as I can tell. There's just some weird thing happening back there that this little brain hasn't been able to track down yet.

... and BTW, checking or unchecking "Snap to Reference" under the Preview screen makes no difference to the AR issue.

Dan - yes, I was being polite but I am genuinely glad there aren't thousands of people sitting swearing at their monitors. One of us is bad enough!

Cheers - Tony
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ynotfish
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Further note:

One issue the wrecking ball approach did resolve is that I now don't have multiple copies of effects and menus displayed... so at least that part came out clean

Cheers - Tony
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Quote: Huh? What's going on?

For the whole time I've been using PD (since about PD7), when you resized an image or video in the Preview screen Aspect Ratio was maintained. I'm not referring to the freeform handles.
Grrrrr - Tony


In PD13 has a new assignment, see in button keyframe / keyframe Settings / Maintain Aspect ratio.

I think good this option, I can now adjust image in freeform mode, directly on the preview.

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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That's great PlaySound!

So now - all I have to do is...

1. Click Keyframe
2. Click Maintain Aspect Ratio*
3. Close the keyframe window
4. Resize the object

* I wonder who thought of defaulting Aspect Ratio to OFF?

I may as well do it in PiP Designer.

I don't mean to sound ungrateful for your suggestion. It does allow me to resize in Preview. Thank you.

Cheers - Tony
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Quote: That's great PlaySound!

So now - all I have to do is...

1. Click Keyframe
2. Click Maintain Aspect Ratio*
3. Close the keyframe window
4. Resize the object

* I wonder who thought of defaulting Aspect Ratio to OFF?

I may as well do it in PiP Designer.

I don't mean to sound ungrateful for your suggestion. It does allow me to resize in Preview. Thank you.

Cheers - Tony


I think the default is Maintain Aspect Ratio.

I don't know how it was disabled here.

I investigated to find this detail.

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