Problem in applying borders

Kuroshio

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Sep 28, 2014 15:03

Hi,
I have been using PD13 for a few projects and came across unexpected behavior when applying borders to a video clip. I shot some video in portrait mode (turning the camera 90 degrees). It imports to and plays in PD13. I can scale the video so it is within the TV-safe zone --- still plays OK. However, when I add a border to the video, the clip gets complete squashed and loses the original aspect ratio. I tried rotating the clip 360 degrees, but the results were the same. It this a program bug or operator error?

Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 16:04

As far as I can tell it is a bug in PowerDirector 13.

I tried a Portrait mode and a Landscape mode Cell phone video.

Power Director 13 changed the rotation and shrank the image to very small size on the Portrait mode when I applied a border.

I did the same thing in Powerdirector 12, it was fine.

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ynotfish

Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 16:14

Hi Kuroshio -

I'm guessing your clip may have been shot on a phone (?) - other not dissimilar problems have been posted with phone cameras shot in portrait mode.

I just ducked outside and shot a clip sideways (Canon XA20) & it behaves perfectly predictably in PDR13. There's no distortion when rotated and border applied... screen shots attached.

So - not a universal portrait/rotation "bug", but possibly an issue with some camera phone clips & how they interact with PD (based on other posts).

Could you post a short sample clip shot in the same mode?

Cheers - Tony


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Kuroshio

Member Joined: Jun 19, 2009 15:32 Messages: 111 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 16:28

Thanks for the responses. I shot the clip with a Sony RX100M3 camera and recorded in XAVC-S format. The video from the camera when taken in that format is outstanding. Based on the two answers so far, this might be a camera dependent problem or a video format problem. Is there a way to upload the clip?

Carl312

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Sep 28, 2014 16:42

Quote: Thanks for the responses. I shot the clip with a Sony RX100M3 camera and recorded in XAVC-S format. The video from the camera when taken in that format is outstanding. Based on the two answers so far, this might be a camera dependent problem or a video format problem. Is there a way to upload the clip?

If the clip is small (short) you can attach it to the forum. 5 to 10 seconds is enough.

Use the PostReply button, not Quick Reply.
Blue Attachments button below the text box.

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Carl312

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Sep 28, 2014 16:50

Tony, here is a portrait mode Video shot with my Nokia Lumia 520 Cell phone.
It has a rotation flag that says 90 degrees. This does in PowerDirector 13 what Kuroshio says.

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Kuroshio

Member Joined: Jun 19, 2009 15:32 Messages: 111 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 17:08

This is the clip. I hope it is not too large

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ynotfish

Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 17:18

EEK!

Carl - I see what you mean... and it doesn't even need borders applied.

Kuroshio - OK - forget what I guessed about camera phones

But you're right - it's camera dependent. What does it do in PDR12? Is it similar to Carl's findings?

70MB downloads through this server might take a while to complete... I'll get back toy you in a while.

Cheers - Tony
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ynotfish

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Sep 28, 2014 17:57

The clip from the Sony RX100M3 does exactly what Carl's Nokia clip does.

But guys - even though they're recorded in portrait mode, they're not recorded "sideways" so they shouldn't need rotating anyway. Have I missed something? Probably. Yes, I have.

In PDR12, both clips display sideways when imported. In PDR13, they're displayed "correctly"... so PDR13 is reading the orientation tags but PDR12 isn't (?)

Haha

I just took some snapshots in PDR13 - it just gets sillier. They display "rotated 90°" in the media library (even though they're actually correct)

Cheers - Tony


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Kuroshio

Member Joined: Jun 19, 2009 15:32 Messages: 111 Offline

Sep 28, 2014 20:33

Hi Carl and Tony,
Thanks for taking a look at clip. I think the work-around at this point is to use PD12. I hope this program aberration gets noted for correction in future releases.