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PD 11 Audio Problem
LukasDED [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 13, 2013 18:17 Messages: 7 Offline
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For some reason, my mp3 files won't play once I put them in the editing timeline, and I'm not quite sure of the cause. The audio runs perfectly when run straight off the media room tab, and it runs in Windows Media Player, but for some reason, it cannot do so in the timeline. It also plays in the trim audio pop-up tab when I double-click the file from the timeline. I assume this is an issue with the editor itself and not the audio, but here's the audio info regardless:

Thanks,
Lukas
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Mp3's have caused issues with PDR , I suggest you convert the mp3's to WAV format.
Dafydd
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Funny, this. I've never had any problem using MP3 in any of my projects, first in PD5, then in PD7 and now in PD8. I often record my narration tracks in MP3 using Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio 10, then import them to be inserted into my work. To do so I first edit my video, then watch it through, pausing at bits and writing down notes to relate to those points on the video. I then read those notes into a microphone, recording into SF10, Do any audio adjustments as are needed and save as "Narration Track For....", note that between each read, I leave a gap of a few seconds so I know where I can split the audio track. I add the track to any of the audio tracks(it doesn't necessarily HAVE to go on the track with the microphone icon). At the end of each comment, I split and cut(ctrl+x), then watch until the next comment point comes up, then paste(ctrl+v), listen to the end of that comment, then repeat the cut and paste process, doing so until all the parts of my narration are in the spots I want them to be. I ALWAYS edit in TIMELINE rather than storyboard as it gives greater control of what I'm doing.
LukasDED [Avatar]
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Quote: Mp3's have caused issues with PDR , I suggest you convert the mp3's to WAV format.
Dafydd


Converted to .wav file and imported the file and played it in the timeline. It's still not playing in the timeline but playing everywhere else. Also, the sound from .mp4 files don't play in the timeline either.

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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote:
Quote: Mp3's have caused issues with PDR , I suggest you convert the mp3's to WAV format.
Dafydd


Converted to .wav file and imported the file and played it in the timeline. It's still not playing in the timeline but playing everywhere else. Also, the sound from .mp4 files don't play in the timeline either.

Have you tried that same audio file in other Timeline Tracks?

PD 11 can play Audio tracks from any active track in the timeline (be sure the check box is checked).
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

LukasDED [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 13, 2013 18:17 Messages: 7 Offline
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Mp3's have caused issues with PDR , I suggest you convert the mp3's to WAV format.
Dafydd


Converted to .wav file and imported the file and played it in the timeline. It's still not playing in the timeline but playing everywhere else. Also, the sound from .mp4 files don't play in the timeline either.

Have you tried that same audio file in other Timeline Tracks?

PD 11 can play Audio tracks from any active track in the timeline (be sure the check box is checked).


Yes, it's still not working, and audio tracks were active.
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Carl and I have been guessing here.
1. A converted mp3 file to a WAV format will play if the converting program can process the data and the audio is there (and not copyright protected).
2. The question for us is "what are you doing wrong". Perhaps you should provide more data for us to guess the answer from.
3. I see the file is only 13mb, you can attach it for us to check out.
4. Please provide a screenshot of the Edit Workspace UI with your project in situ - we want to see what you're looking at and doing.

OK, let's have the info and I'm sure Carl will get to the answer before I will
Dafydd
LukasDED [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 13, 2013 18:17 Messages: 7 Offline
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Quote: Carl and I have been guessing here.
1. A converted mp3 file to a WAV format will play if the converting program can process the data and the audio is there (and not copyright protected).
2. The question for us is "what are you doing wrong". Perhaps you should provide more data for us to guess the answer from.
3. I see the file is only 13mb, you can attach it for us to check out.
4. Please provide a screenshot of the Edit Workspace UI with your project in situ - we want to see what you're looking at and doing.

OK, let's have the info and I'm sure Carl will get to the answer before I will
Dafydd


I feel immensely stupid and I greatly appreciate the time you dedicated to trying to solve my problem. After realizing that I hadn't updated PD in a while, I did so, restarted PD, and that seemed to fix the problem. I should've tried that from the start but I totally forgot about updating it. Anyways, thank you.
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Hi, all! I came on-line because I was notified by Email I had a response to my post on this matter, but upon coming on-line I see the question asked by Carl312 wasn't aimed at me, but rather at LukasDED. But in the event that Carl's question might've also been directed toward me, I'll answer thus: I've had no problem with MP3 audio files and can use them easily and safely on ALL audio tracks in PD8 and was able to use them easily in PD7. As I explained in my description of how I occasionally add narration to my videos, these narration tracks are MP3, as are any music "beds"(background music) I may insert. Using MP3 audio has never caused me any problems at all.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: Hi, all! I came on-line because I was notified by Email I had a response to my post on this matter, but upon coming on-line I see the question asked by Carl312 wasn't aimed at me, but rather at LukasDED.

Neil,
If anybody posts in a thread that you have also posted in, you and everybody else will get email notice that there is a new post in the thread.

The email notices are just a notice that somebody posted in a thread you also posted in.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Anonymous [Avatar]
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Thanks for the heads-up, Carl312! And to lukasDED, Hope you solve your problem soon! Carl and others have a touch more expertise than me on this matter, so I'll leave it to them. My only comment was that I genuinely have had no problems using MP3, either on the narration(voice) track or the music track(s) with PD5, 7 or 8!
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Neil,
The issue about MP3 Audio files, is there are many compression codecs that do MP3 and many computers that run Powerdirector.

If you are on the forum long enough, you will see posts about the problem produced by interaction between Powerdirector, the computer platform, and the compressor that was used to create that MP3 file.

The most often complaint I have seen is sync problems with the video and audio. Sometimes, MP3 audio will slowly drift away from perfect lip sync with the video.

MP3 files may sound good, but the timing drifts.
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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Carl,
MP3 files may sound good, but the timing drifts
Obviously that may be more of a problem with the user's computer.
In this past 24 to 48 hours I've completed editing on a video of an event held here called "Steamfest". It is centred on the City of Maitland, NSW and is held over the second weekend in April(during our Autumn, which runs from 1st March to 31st May). The event is all about steam locomotives(though some diesel locos get in on the act and there are some vintage rail motor pairs can also be seen at these events). I recorded the narration in Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio 10, then imported the resulting MP3 file into my work and used a cut-paste arrangement to drop the bits of narration at each spot where it was required. I had no problem with "drifting".
The video content in this production comprised material shot by myself using a Panasonic SDR-S71 and from a friend who was using a JVC Evario camera. I simply copied the content from the SD cards of each camera to my computer, renamed the files, brought'em into my PD8 and started snippin' and fittin' and it all came together very nicely! I wish I could upload it but the file size is far too large.
Cheers for now!
Neil.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Neil,

Some MP3 files do drift. The ones that tend to drift are recorded at a lower bit rate.

There are many factors that go into if it happens or not, as you have found some recorders do a very good job with MP3 files.

I have a Sony IC recorder that I use sometimes, I have no problem with the MP3 files from that recorder either.

I do not say all MP3 files are bad, that is not true.

You have to judge the MP3 file on the Powerdirector timeline, if it does or does not have problems.

There is one fault in Powerdirector that happens sometime, you put a MP3 file on the timeline, all you get is a screeching sound. It used to happen often in older versions of Powerdirector.

In all cases of problems with a MP3 file is to convert that MP3 to WAV will solve the problem.

If you search the forum for MP3 you may find a surprising number of posts and problems.

I found 262 hits.

When you see that many problems, you tend to avoid using a problem format.
It has been well documented that MP3 audio is a iffy audio format in Powerdirector.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Anonymous [Avatar]
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Hello Carl,
When you see that many problems, you tend to avoid using a problem format.
It has been well documented that MP3 audio is a iffy audio format in Powerdirector


I, at any time in the future, I do encounter problems with MP3, I will avoid it THEN, but for now I've had no issues with using MP3 audio in any of my video "creations". I should point out that I don't ALWAYS record my narrations separately, sometimes I might record an ad-lib narration directly to the voice track,(which, of course, is a .wav file), but I prefer to read from a prepared "script"(old community radio habits coming into play here). The versatility of Power Director to allow me to edit my narration track in the way I've described in a previous post, is testament to the software product's quality.
But, as I've said, if MP3 starts giving me headaches in relation to Power Director in future, I'll revert to .wav files. But right now, all is well in the MP3 garden!
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