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How can I get/convert my 4K 3840x2160 into .MOV container without losing size?
ckatosmith [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 28, 2014 11:58 Messages: 24 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 11:27
I need my 4K files in a .MOV format without losing size (for video stock photography, the agency wants submissions in .MOV).

Alas, PD only shows up to HD option for MOV. QuickTime PRO won't open up the .MP4 files PD generates for Ultra HD (4K files), so I could not convert there. I don't know if Avidemux will do it (I didn't understand their input/output choices but didn't see .MOV anywhere), and Mpeg Streamclip won't open PD generated .MP4 4K files either.

It would be fantastic if PowerDirector would include the capability to generate the .MOV container for 4K instead of limiting it to 1920x1080. Any work arounds? I would like to stay with PD instead of migrating over to Adobe (love their product, dislike the subscription based model) or another NLE.

I am Windows 8.1 based and my Handycam does XAVC S (H.264/AVC and the .MP4 container)

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at May 30. 2014 11:30

Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 11:49
Search the internet for MP4 to MOV 4K converters.

There are several.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

ckatosmith [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 28, 2014 11:58 Messages: 24 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 15:38
Thanks Carl312,

Sheesh, don't know how I missed that simple search phrase. I think I was concentrating on 'editors' instead of 'converters'.

I tried two products and decided to go with Doremisoft Studio's Video Converter (~ $55 inc tax), in case anyone else has the same question.

I chose them over Gihosoft (aka Jihosoft) because Jihosoft only had a download presence, while Doremisoft had tutorials, a blog, several revisions with revision history to see...i.e., they seem more permanent and dedicated to improving/keeping up the software with time.

Anyway, it does what I want and I thank you!

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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 17:51
Quote: Thanks Carl312,

Sheesh, don't know how I missed that simple search phrase. I think I was concentrating on 'editors' instead of 'converters'.

I tried two products and decided to go with Doremisoft Studio's Video Converter (~ $55 inc tax), in case anyone else has the same question.

I chose them over Gihosoft (aka Jihosoft) because Jihosoft only had a download presence, while Doremisoft had tutorials, a blog, several revisions with revision history to see...i.e., they seem more permanent and dedicated to improving/keeping up the software with time.

Anyway, it does what I want and I thank you!

You are welcome.

I assume that you got your files converted OK.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

ckatosmith [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 28, 2014 11:58 Messages: 24 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 18:52
Yes, PD rendered a 59 second .MP4 file for 4K as a 350MB file. Video Converter put it into a 54MB .MOV file, no change in dimensions or loss of quality that I could tell.

I don't know much about setting bitrates. The default in the converter is 8000 mbs. Does changing the bitrate (in the converter software) affect the final file for the end user somehow or does it just affect how long the conversion process takes? A bit off topic, but thought I would ask.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
[Post New] May 30, 2014 19:45
Quote: Yes, PD rendered a 59 second .MP4 file for 4K as a 350MB file. Video Converter put it into a 54MB .MOV file, no change in dimensions or loss of quality that I could tell.

I don't know much about setting bitrates. The default in the converter is 8000 mbs. Does changing the bitrate (in the converter software) affect the final file for the end user somehow or does it just affect how long the conversion process takes? A bit off topic, but thought I would ask.

Yes, Bit rate is the primary determiner of file size.

It is also the quality of the video. That is why HD cameras shoot at such high bit rates. I do not have access to a 4K camera, so I do not know what the normal bit rate is for 4K. 1920x1080 is 17-28 Megabits. (depends on which camera).

I have heard of 50 Megabits for 4K.

You can look at the original file with MediaInfo to see what the bit rate of the original video is.

Free Download
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

I do not know what affects the speed of conversion, some converters are very fast and some are very slow.
The better converters are usually pretty fast.
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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