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Peter79 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 18, 2014 06:16 Messages: 11 Offline
[Post New] May 18, 2014 06:53
As I want to buy a new pc for mostly video-editing with Powerdirector 12, I am thinking about an i7-processor with an additional GPU-card.
As far I have seen (according to all the benchmarks), the best cpu around 275 euro (300 dollar) is the Intel i7-4770K (Socket 1150).

BUT... There is only one benchmark of which the i7-4770k loses badly: Powerdirector. The same priced i7-4820K performs amazingly better on Powerdirector only (tested without an additional GPU only). It takes 87 seconds to render a 1-minute movie, while the 4770K takes a crazy 129 seconds...

The link:
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4761/13/intel-core-i7-4960x---4930k--4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-22nm-powerhouse-benchmarks-cyberlink-powerdirector

Now I'm doubting whether I go for the 4820 (although the mainboard is some more expensive and other than Powerdirector benchmarks are lower) or the overall better performer 4770 on other benchmarks (or the new 4790 which is a little faster for the same price)...

My questions are:
- Can anyone explain why the I7-4820K (Socket 2011) is faster on Powerdirector only; compared to the I7-4770K (Socket 1150)?
- How much does Powerdirector rely on GPU power? Is Powerdirector optimised better for NVIDIA or AMD RADEON GPU's? (Btw, does Powerdirector support 7xx series of NVIDIA? This one isn't on the support list of Powerdirector)
- Which combination of CPU and GPU will get maximum Powerdirector performance when spending around 475 euros (550 dollar)?

Thank you for your replies!

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CubbyHouseFilms
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 02:51
Quote: As I want to buy a new pc for mostly video-editing with Powerdirector 12, I am thinking about an i7-processor with an additional GPU-card.
As far I have seen (according to all the benchmarks), the best cpu around 275 euro (300 dollar) is the Intel i7-4770K (Socket 1150).
BUT... There is only one benchmark of which the i7-4770k loses badly: Powerdirector. The same priced i7-4820K performs amazingly better on Powerdirector only (tested without an additional GPU only). It takes 87 seconds to render a 1-minute movie, while the 4770K takes a crazy 129 seconds...
The link:
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4761/13/intel-core-i7-4960x---4930k--4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-22nm-powerhouse-benchmarks-cyberlink-powerdirector
Now I'm doubting whether I go for the 4820 (although the mainboard is some more expensive and other than Powerdirector benchmarks are lower) or the overall better performer 4770 on other benchmarks (or the new 4790 which is a little faster for the same price)...
My questions are:
- Can anyone explain why the I7-4820K (Socket 2011) is faster on Powerdirector only; compared to the I7-4770K (Socket 1150)?
- How much does Powerdirector rely on GPU power? Is Powerdirector optimised better for NVIDIA or AMD RADEON GPU's? (Btw, does Powerdirector support 7xx series of NVIDIA? This one isn't on the support list of Powerdirector)
- Which combination of CPU and GPU will get maximum Powerdirector performance when spending around 475 euros (550 dollar)?
Thank you for your replies!


Hi Peter 79

Welcome to the forum

I can't really help you as I'm not a tech head, but I thought your post deserved a bump before it got lost on Page 4 so a more competent member can give you answer on the other side of The World from me.

For what it is worth my lowly laptop specs are on my signature and it handles PD very well.

Happy editing

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Happing editing

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Peter79 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 18, 2014 06:16 Messages: 11 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 11:59
Thank you, Neil for welcoming me... I'm new indeed
In the near future I'm going to buy a new pc with Powerdirector... I will be more on this forum then to help and discuss Powerdirector related things...

In the mean time I already investigated further and have some of the answers...
Biggest thing is that with a GPU activated (internal in CPU or seperate card) the difference between de 4820 and the 4690 is about 10%... Not that big difference as I posted before.... It isn't a problem anymore and I probably go for the i5-4690K...
Powerdirector supports OpenCL which is also supported on the 700-series of NVidia.. So I think I'll buy a GTX750 or GTX760....

Btw... Hopefully in the new version of Powerdirector the windows of the multicam feature can be resized so the 4 video-windows can be some enlarged... As far as I have seen in the demoversion resizing isn't possible yet... But I love the feature; I have been waiting for exactly this for over 6 years!

Looking forward to my new system and working with Powerdirector 12... Greetz to you all...
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 12:10
Quote: Btw... Hopefully in the new version of Powerdirector the windows of the multicam feature can be resized so the 4 video-windows can be some enlarged... As far as I have seen in the demoversion resizing isn't possible yet... But I love the feature; I have been waiting for exactly this for over 6 years!

The paid version of PowerDirector 12 Ultra has a full screen Multicam designer.


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Peter79 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 18, 2014 06:16 Messages: 11 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 12:27
Quote:
The paid version of PowerDirector 12 Ultra has a full screen Multicam designer.


Thank you for your reply... So instead of the screen:
http://damngoodreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/PD12-MultiCam-Designer-GUI-Small.jpg

It's possible to view a bigger version of the 4 cams and mastercam? (when pressing 1, 2, 3 and 4 on the keyboard when recording)
That would be great... I've read a review somewhere where they said you couldn't resize it...
Hopefully it will work with Full HD streams well, but guess it does...

Btw, are the plugins of the Ultimate version worth the extra money? I usually dislike all sort of videotransitions and themes but if there are some usefull plugins, I can buy the Ultimate version
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 14:12
I am not the person to ask about the extras, I don't use them.

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Andrew - Wales, UK
Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline
[Post New] May 22, 2014 15:35
Hi Peter,

I recently upgraded my PC to the one below, which is a Dell XPS 8700. I have no expertise in building my own so buying one was the only option.

As you can see, mine is the i7 4770 plus I have the 2GB AMD card. PowerDirector is working very smoothly with it indeed.

I'm no expert in i5 vs i7 when it comes to performance with PowerDirector. It was simply down to going for the best processor that was in budget!

Cheers,

Andy Alienware Aurora ALX R4 - Intel i7-4820 4.2 GHz - 32GB DDR3 RAM - Crucial 512GB SSD - 1TB Seagate HDD - 3TB WD Green HDD - 4TB WD Green HDD - MSI NVIDIA GTX 1070 8GB

Sony HDR-PJ810 and HDR-PJ530
Peter79 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 18, 2014 06:16 Messages: 11 Offline
[Post New] Jun 05, 2014 16:59
Ok, I have bought the i5-4690 CPU with a NVidia GTX750TI GPU...

As far I can see now, Powerdirector 12 is more CPU than GPU depandant... In a lot of cases my CPU reaches 100% while my GPU usually doesn't exceed 40%...

Just to inform the ones who are interested
Tomas G77
Member Location: Ayrshire Joined: Jun 13, 2008 08:54 Messages: 100 Offline
[Post New] Jun 06, 2014 07:53
Have you read this about the new processor

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70473-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-22nm-haswell/

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
[Post New] Jun 06, 2014 10:52
Hi Peter79 -

Though it's unrelated to "Hardware for PowerDirector", I just thought I'd try to clarify something about the MultiCam module.

There is NO DIFFERENCE between how the MultiCam windows function in the trial version or the full version.

The whole MC workspace can be resized, but the individual camera windows are completely fixed. Please see the attached screen capture.

Cheers - Tony
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Peter79 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 18, 2014 06:16 Messages: 11 Offline
[Post New] Jun 08, 2014 06:04
Thank you for your reply, Tony...
I bought PD12 and I've noticed it isn't possible to resize the windows... Too bad, because the 4 cams look like poststamps in my opinion now
It would be great if I could resize the left and right side just like in the main editing window; even if the 4 cams are stretched and some more blocky... I also posted a reply to another post about this... Hopefully we'll see this in future updates

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