Hi Pettros 1,

I have never relied on the «uploader».
A couple of times I have been forced to use it because CL has wanted the video
on DZ, and something always seem to go wrong.
The safest way is to just produce your video and then use YT’s uploader.

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Thanks for your help and realize have missed something very simple. That is that normally I just put together my .mts files, save a .pds and then create a DVD and folder. Then go back and use the .pds to upload to YouTube.
I have done this since PD8 and has worked quite well, but not so with PD12?
My question is how to you save a produced/edited video that is not a .pds? Otherwise one has to load separate files and assemble with YouTubes' editor which is a bit limited in what can be done.
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My guess is that it has to do with the videos being 1 hour+ in length. It sounds like your YT account will currently allow you to upload long videos, is that correct? YT can easily handle .mts, .m2ts and .mp4, but uploading such big videos can be a problem

I have *never* tried PD's built-in uploader, but I have found that for uploading 5 min 1920x1080/60p videos to YT, which are ~1GB in size, works much more reliably if you start an InPrivate session of IE. There's something about the do not track, no add-ons, barebones nature of that window that works consistently.

If I use the YT uploader in a standard browser window, the upload often hangs and I get various error messages, and maybe that's what's happening to you.

I'm a little confused about saving the videos as PDS files in your 2nd post. That's the project file for PD and YT won't understand it. Stick with producing to .mts and try an InPrivate (or related mode on your browser of choice) session and see if that works.

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Thanks optodata (Man), now that has a nice ring to it.
Yes, do have permissions to large YT uploads. Over last couple of years or so have uploaded around 80 and most over 1-1 1/2hrs. long. And many direct from .mts files. Lately been trying MPEG4 and others but none working. Although smaller files do which may point to the large file issue.
Actually YT in there format to use to not show .mts but they have obviously worked. Have always used PDs' YT uploader and works well as it takes my completely edited video produced from PD. I have put some together in earlier times but is a bit painful but to note it has got somewhat better.

So my questions are based around what has worked before not using PD12? Because all worked with PD10 which I have upgraded from Dec. 2013. Since then all my issues have happened.

And CL support after much back and forth and sending my source files finally admit there are problems. Comment pasted in my first post in thread.

If you noticed 1Ninas' comment, I quote: - 'The safest way is to just produce your video and then use YT’s uploader.'

My question back to her is how to you save a file in PD12 other than a PDS, which of course cannot be loaded to YT, and then load it to YT?

InPrivate session of IE is new to me, have not used IE for many years. Only Google Chrome. What is InPrivate session? Have not noted this in GC but just now have noted 'New Incognito Window' in control window and this must be what you are saying. But still leaves my question how to upload a PD12 fully edited video to YT not using PD12s' uploader?

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Simply this: Produce your project as you would normally do, but use the Standard 2D tab rather than the Online one. Use the H.264 AVC settings for 1280x720 at 24p or 60p. You can also use MPEG-4. You don't need to create a DVD, just produce the output video as an MP4 or .m2ts file.

Now, use GC to go to your YT account page and click on the UPLOAD button near the top right corner, and navigate (or use drag and drop) to select your video. Maybe everything will go smoothly, but if you have any issues with the upload or processing hanging, you can try the Incognito mode.

Now I understand why you thought that PD12 uploaded the pds file. What PD actually does is starts producing the video while sending the output file directly to YT. You never see the produced file, you just know that PD somehow got your project uploaded.

To upload manually, you'll only need to change where the produced file is stored and then just upload it yourself. It should be very easy

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Wonderful and will give it a go as they say down under.

My Canon video data is AVCHD 1080/50i. 1080/25P (Max. AVCHD 24 Mbps) And not sure of difference.

I have used mostly 1080/25 but have tried 1080/50i and have not noticed any difference.

May all the nicest sunsets shine on you. Am long time ago from West Coast B.C. and remember nice sunsets.
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25p and 50i have the same video information, so they would be your best bets for quality. I'm sure this'll be a No Worries experience!

I've spent time in BC, once in '86 for the World's Fair in Vancouver. I even visited OZ and went to Brisbane for Expo '88, with stops in Sydney (downtown, Bondi Beach and the Blue Mountains) and then to Mackay for a trip out to the reef.

Funny thing about North America and Australia - the kangaroos and squirrels seem almost interchangeable as far as being ubiquitous goes

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Thank you an do hope this all works out. Will post again with result.

Been in Oz since '70 and did see Expo Omnimax theatre in '84 or '88 and Expo '88 in Brissy. Previous to Vancouver Expo '86 False Creek in Vancouver was so polluted I think if you lit a match there it would explode. Used to go on dive trips from there.

I can say that near the woods in front of us we have a Buck kangaroo that when he stands up he looks eight feet tall. I don't want to meet him on a dark night!

When you say. 'You don't need to create a DVD, just produce the output video as an MP4 or .m2ts file.'
I thought I was already producing H.264 AVC and that is the output?

Okay changed my export folder and discovered it produced to the import folder and found the 8Gb .m2ts file there which am now trying to upload. Still trying to reach 1% and indicating approx. 60hrs to complete. This is not looking good. At that speed I can get back to you on the weekend to let you know the result
The .m2ts file plays fine in Power DVD. Will persist for a bit and see how it goes. Gidday and Gnite for now.
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Pettros 1,

Why do you need to try uploading a 8Gb .m2ts file

My advice to you will be to produce your video to another format; mp4 1280*720p or 1920*1080p.
You may even produce your video in a wmv HD format, and YT will display it ok.
(YT is in any case "processing" any uploaded video)

When you go to the "Produce" modul, you select the format you want, and when you are asked where to
export it, you can choose basically anywhere on your computer.
You have a "Video" folder, why not produce it to that destination.
If you are in need of more guidance, let me know- and I will upload some images.


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1Nina, his video is over an hour long, and 8GB would be the approximate size regardless of the format if he wanted to keep it in full HD. He can lower the resolution and make the output file size smaller, but nobody could ever watch it in maximum resolution. It's the editor's choice

Pettros1, my 5 minute videos are 1GB in size and they take approximately 17 minutes to upload to YT. I have 50Mbps download and 11Mbps up speed from my ISP; with my connection it would take a little over 2 hours to upload your .m2ts file. It would help to know what your upload speed is, but unless it's only 300kbps (0.3Mbps) then something else is going on.

This is actually what happens for me if I don't use the InPrivate window in IE, so maybe you should cancel the upload and open an Incognito window in GC to see if things don't improve dramatically.

As 1Nina mentioned, you also have the option of producing to a lower resolution which will result in a smaller file size and shorter upload time. Editor's choice!

When you say. 'You don't need to create a DVD, just produce the output video as an MP4 or .m2ts file.'
I thought I was already producing H.264 AVC and that is the output?

Maybe we're saying the same thing. In your earlier post, you said "That is that normally I just put together my .mts files, save a .pds and then create a DVD and folder." and I guess I wanted to clarify that you didn't need to go through the extra steps of creating a DVD (physical disc and/or folder) just to upload to YT. Sorry if I misunderstood

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Well, maybe make a part1, part2 and part3 is an option.....
I remember showing "Ghandi" in the classroom in .flv format, displayed on a big whiteboard.
Worked fine.
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Thanks 1Nina and Optodata, trust your all having a nice weekend.
What truly confuses me and also likely repeating myself, is that most of the almost 80 uploads to YouTube are HD, over and hour long and often straight from .mts to YouTube using PD uploader. And most of them done with 4Gb of RAM and no dedicated graphics card?
And they all worked. Now have 8Gb of RAM and dedicated GC. CL have at least admitted to me there are problems on YouTube side of things.
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Pettros1;- hello.

YouTube/Google is changing things all the time it seems.
But as I said in earlier post; I have always had trouble with PD's uploader anf therefore avoid using it.
You, on the other hand, seem to have had success using it, up until now.

Have you tried uploading with YT's own uploader?
When you sign in to your channel, you click "upload", and the uploader will show.
You then locate your produced video, select it, and the uploader does its thing.
Will you give that a go and come back and tell ushow you are getting on.

(You seem to have lots of free space on your C drive, and I trust you save your videos to another drive
when it's finished)

Nina

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Pettros1, thanks for uploading the screenshots, they are very helpful

I see that you have ADSL, and that agrees well with the 60 hour upload time you reported earlier.

The key to us all understanding the difference between producing first then uploading vs PD producing directly to YT lies in the resolution that PD used for YT. From your Video Manager page, choose one of the videos you had previously uploaded. Take a look at the original file info on the right side. You may need to download the file to get the info, but that will tell you what resolution was used.

You could then set PD to produce the same format and then use the YT uploader again. It should take much less time to upload because I'm certain it's not full HD.

Also, if you find that you do want to upload full HD videos in the future, you will need to get a much faster internet connection. If you haven't looked for awhile, you may find that the cost for 10x your current speeds may not be all that much more than you're currently paying.

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1Nina, the YouTube screenshot is the file uploader I am trying to use and not working for me. But have just spoke to my BB2 provider and first thing she said is reboot my modem and that should do it weekly. I remote power off everything else but leave modem on 24/7. So result is speed is much better and will try again.
Optodata, will attach a Speedtest result and file info, not sure am getting right info.
Have started same upload and ettload is less than half so looking a lot better but still not as good as it was.
YouTube file info re type are either .wmv or .flv. Note attached.
ISP provider tells me these figures are well within averages for BB2.
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Pettros,
please excuse me......of course your attached file shows you did try the YT uploader!
(I have a severe flu these days, maybe I can blame it for not being alert )

I live in rural location 20 km from nearest towns, and we will not be blessed with
other than adsl connection in my lifetime, probably.
What's more, our providers have poor limits.
You see what I have to deal with below.
I never have problems uploading, but I don't upload several GBs of course.
Hope you will be able to get it fixed.

Nina


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Thanks 1Nina, and know you will get well soon. Springs around the corner and maybe you need some time in one of those famous Nordic type saunas.

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Pettros1, I'm glad the rebooted modem has improved things!

The best way to determine the resolution of the source video on YT is to click on the gear icon on the lower right side of the bottom toolbar. When the settings menu opens, it will show you the current playback speed and resolution. If you have a low speed connection (like I do in a hotel room), it may show 144 or 240, even if the video is available in 1080p. YT can always lower the resolution of the streaming video, but it can't ever increase it beyond the source video's resolution.

I looked at one of your videos and the max resolution is 240, which means that's the resolution PD produced and sent directly to YT. I want everything I do to be available in full HD, and now I remember why I never use PD's built-in uploader.

In any case, you now have the answer for producing going forward. If you have been happy with the quality of your videos on YT, then you simply need to produce to WMV at one of the lower resolution settings and manually upload to YT. Your file size will be much smaller than 8GB and your upload times will be in the minutes, not hours range.

I think you're all set

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Yes, thanks 1Nina and optodata. Have had success in loading .wmv to YouTube at 720 or even 1080 but taking quite some time. I had for short time good ADSL speed at 7 down and 1 up but am some distance from connect point here and they have stabilised the ADSL which slows it but I do not loose connection, or so they explain. They have not explained how I had great connection before and don't now?
In any case the manual YouTube upload works and have noted how can change to higher resolution with settings there. Did not realize that before.
Also think my system is a bit light for video editing and considering getting this. Optodata you may have some thoughts on it and hope Dafvd doesn't flame me for this. Think am still on topic though, maybe.
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