Hi quim111 -

The issue has been raised previously - http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/31466 - & on other occasions, I'm sure.

That is a serious difference in duration! It starts off in PD as 33:21:11 but in ADR it's 33:30:720. You're right - ignore the frames/milliseconds - it's 9 seconds different.

What's the duration when it is brought back into PowerDirector?

A while back I did a few tests on different video/audio clips to see if I could find a pattern. Those tests were inconclusive. I've never seen a difference like that!

Cheers - Tony

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Hi ynotfish,

Yes, it's a serious difference!! It ruins the project!!

When the file returns to powerdirector it keeps the lenght of audiodirector, that's why it goes out of sync!

It's an enigma for me this issue

P.S. My nick? just a abreviation of my real name Joaquim quim11

I don't think your problem is with the WAV file.
I think your video is dropping frames because of a frame rate issue.

An old Adobe Premiere Pro trick was to output the video as an *Uncompressed AVI* and output the audio as WAV as separate files from VOB sources.

Then re-assemble the AVI and WAV on a brand new project timeline.

This trick even works if you output the film as a series of Targa files and then re-import them.
Just make sure you have the right frame rate for what you want to do.

NTSC is 29.97fps
PAL is 25fps

Jimbo223

And how do I do what you sugest? Excuse my ignorance, I'm sort of a newbie on Powerdirector.

Thank you quim11

You need to know what the NTSC/PAL settings are for what you want to do like frame rate and frame size (width/height).

AVI is a container.
The codec you use for compression should be something standard.
V210 is the codec option in Premiere and the AVI option is called Uncompressed Microsoft AVI.
Match it to what you can in PD.

For AVI video based on 720x576 25fps PAL:
Progressive ON
Video Codec: V210
Quality: 100% (no compression)
Aspect/Pixel Size: 1.094 (standard size for PAL video)

OR

For Targa:
Export as sequence ON
Progressive ON
Aspect/Pixel Size: 1.094 (standard size for PAL video)

Make sure you have plenty of hard drive space for this and match your frame sizes accordingly.

WAV can be anything.
48000Hz at 16bit Stereo is a starting point.
If there's an option to be uncompressed then use that.

Then let it start and come back in a couple of hours.
Start a new project using the AVI (or Targa sequence) you created and drop the WAV file at the same starting positions (this is usually 00:00:00:00).

Jimbo223

Not enough words to thank you! I've followed your instructions and it worked!!!!!! THANK YOU


But I still consider this as a serious bug or fault on powerdirector that cyberlink should resolve as soon as possible!

Hope that someone from cyberlink kept an eye on this post.

Thanks again Jimb223 & all other members who tried to help me. quim11

If it worked that's good.

If it really is what I think it is, it's not a bug but a symptom of the encoded video which isn't ideally suited for editing (like VOBs). Not PD's fault but a natural symptom of editing VOBs.

To give the impression of being in sync, it's easier for the econder to drop frames than jump audio (priority is on audio). Video can fool the brain into not noticing dropped frames until you realize half way through that things are out of sync.

So you have to fake things a little for the editor. It's not reliable to work with an already compressed data stream (as you've experienced) so to handle the video in a more editor friendly format you have to feed it something which makes it think is fresh footage (like uncompressed AVI on PCs or uncompressed MOV quicktime on Macs).

You're simply repackaging the same footage into a different shiny container.

Hope this explains things more a little and you learned a bit about how to work around future problems.

Jimbo223

Yes, I've learned this lesson with your inputs. Thanks again.

But why not powerdirector handle VOB files as other vídeo formats? Would great for the newbies like me... lool quim11

There's a reason...
and to put it gently it could cost you a copyright infringement law suit and time in jail.

Ah... right... got it!

Anyway, I was working with home/private made vob files. quim11