I've experienced the same issue. AFAIK, it has nothing to do with Windows or PD12 protecting your earlier work but rather more to do with PD12 not completely releasing the file write buffer while the editor is open. On my machine, I can even delete the old file in Windows Explorer and it disappears, but if I hit F5/refresh, it shows up again.

The file can be deleted after you reboot the computer, but the workaround is to give the revised file a new name and then delete the original file and rename the new file outside of PD12. This did not happen in PD11.

YouTube/optodata

DS365 | Win11 Pro | Ryzen 9 3950X | RTX 4070 Ti | 32GB RAM | 10TB SSDs | 5K+4K HDR monitors

Canon Vixia GX10 (4K 60p) | HF G30 (HD 60p) | Yi Action+ 4K | 360Fly 4K 360°

I think the logic that PD implements is conservative and it hinges on the automatic "import" of the produced file into the media library. One could argue that this is not necessary, on the other hand it might be very useful particularly if one is producing several "sub-projects" from a major edit via the render range tool.

However, given that logic is used, then the produced file is "in use" (aka open) and therefore the filename is unavailable.

The media library file handling process allows removal from the library and, if chosen in preferences, also removal from disc. Either will allow the file to be "closed" and a subsequent produced file dialog will include the normal overwrite question if applicable.

In this case, the media library in PD acts as a front end for windows (which acts a s a front end for ??DOS) and PD allows similar file handling to occur. I'm not sure I see too much difficulty in "disposing" of an unwanted produced file, via the PD media library, and subsequently producing another version to the same name.


Cheers
Adrian


Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.

Sorry Adrian, I think it is a bug. If I do a Save Project as... and give it a name, e.g. proj1.pds, then do a Save project As and select the same name, proj1.pds, it says "Proj1.pds already exists. Do you want to replace it?

All I ask is that PD12 does the same thing for a produced file.

To quote Jeremy "How hard can it be?". Custom computer: 8 processors, 16G Ram, ,C: drive 250G solid state. F: (Scratch drive) 2x 500Gb raid (0). G: (Data drive) 2Tb raid (1)
Power director Ultimate 12.0.2230.0

Quote: Sorry Adrian, I think it is a bug. If I do a Save Project as... and give it a name, e.g. proj1.pds, then do a Save project As and select the same name, proj1.pds, it says "Proj1.pds already exists. Do you want to replace it?

All I ask is that PD12 does the same thing for a produced file.

To quote Jeremy "How hard can it be?".

No its not a bug. Adrian was spot on with his post. If you've looked at your produced video by returning to Edit and if you've saved your project, then the video file is "open" and in use by PDR12 and can not be overwritten. An open file can not be deleted or overwritten.
Dafydd

OK, so it is not a bug, it's a feature. I don't quite see the point but pressing on...


My modus operandi, then, is to complete all my editing before I try to Produce.

If I still need to change the movie after Producing it, I can either (1) assign a new name for the Produced file, e.g. movie2, movie3, then later clean up the old stuff from the folder or (2) exit out of PD12, delete movie1, go back in to PD12, make my changes, and re-create movie1.

I am tending towards option (2) as it keeps the folder clean and PD12 gets a change to sort itself out between attempts. Custom computer: 8 processors, 16G Ram, ,C: drive 250G solid state. F: (Scratch drive) 2x 500Gb raid (0). G: (Data drive) 2Tb raid (1)
Power director Ultimate 12.0.2230.0

Hi,
I think the best way is after editing the clip re-save under a different Name with suffix relating to the edit. Then you can delete the previous version.
Jim Intel i7-2600@3.4Gz Geforce 560ti-1GB Graphic accelerator, windows 7 Premium 12GB memory

Visit GranPapa64's channel for your YouTube experience of the day!

Well, I've written a reply but the gremlins seem to prevent me posting it. Ah well tomorrow's a new day.

Cheers
Adrian
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.

The gremlins are still asleep and have let my reply through.

OK, so it is not a bug, it's a feature. I don't quite see the point but pressing on...


My modus operandi, then, is to complete all my editing before I try to Produce.

If I still need to change the movie after Producing it, I can either (1) assign a new name for the Produced file, e.g. movie2, movie3, then later clean up the old stuff from the folder or (2) exit out of PD12, delete movie1, go back in to PD12, make my changes, and re-create movie1.

1.
I think it's important - a bug is a malfunction (that needs addressing), a feature (in this context) is just a "choice", perhaps of logic, process or appearance. I don't like the standard PD skin, but it's not a bug, it's just a choice. As it happens, in that case I can change the appearance, with some effort. Others don't know how or find it not so important.

2.
Well, possibly, but I often produce many times before I am happy with my project. Admittedly, this does depend on the size and complexity of the project, but it is usually several times.

3.
Or just re-enter the media library, remove (or delete - depending on your preferences setup) the movie1 file and re-produce the new edit. If you have just removed from the library, the standard "overwrite etc etc" dialog is triggered, if you have chosen to delete from disc then just choose movie1 again.

Cheers
Adrian
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.