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making a dvd with out re encoding video
eric76 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 08, 2013 11:07 Messages: 6 Offline
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Hello guys I just downloaded a trial version of powerdirector 12 and have been looking at the different features and I am wanting to make a dvd video with the software without it re encoding the video. The video footage I have is already dvd video compliant. I am basically reauthoring already made dvd's with better menus. is there a way to set settings so it does not re encode the video so I can keep the quality of the already compliant mpeg2 file? Thanks guys hope to hear from you.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Unless your videos are fully compliant with the DVD standard, they will be re-encoded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video

Powerdirector does not have a Produce profie that is VOB, it does have MPEG-2 HQ (720x480/576 at 8 Mbps). Which is the format of the VOB files.

Even that profile is re-rendered to VOB by the Create Disk module to make a DVD that is compliant with the DVD Standard.

Now BluRay is a different story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

A completely different standard.

I have never tried directly taking the VOB files on the timeline then creating or using a new Menu. I do know the Create Disk Module will re-encode the Menu, I do not know if it just copies the already compliant video. I do not know if the Create Disk Module uses SVRT. SVRT stands for Smart Video Rendering Technology.

Then there is the matter of Chapters, you would have to add the chapter markers, because they would be lost in the copy operation.

Menus are a lot more complicated that you think.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

eric76 [Avatar]
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Ok the videos are already mpeg2 and dvd standard settings as they came directly from a dvd. I extract the vobs from the dvd into mpeg2 with all the original settings and it still wants to encode the video even though its already mpeg dvd standard.
Carl312
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Quote: Ok the videos are already mpeg2 and dvd standard settings as they came directly from a dvd. I extract the vobs from the dvd into mpeg2 with all the original settings and it still wants to encode the video even though its already mpeg dvd standard.

You do know that Powerdirector can handle VOB files directly. You can copy them from the DVD and edit them in Powerdirector.

If you do not want to convert the video twice, just copy the VOB files from the DVD to the hard drive. Them Import the VOB files into Powerdirector.

That way you will only re-encode no more than once.
As to the structure of a DVD only some to the VOB files are the Menus. The rest of the VOB files are the movie.

When you import all of the VOB files from the DVD you can see which ones are the menu. Powerdirector makes thumbnails.

You put the VOB files that are the Movie on the Timeline and leave the Menu VOB file behind.

Then in Powerdirector's Create disk you can use one of the default menus or modify one or create a new menu. Create a new menu is the hard way. Powerdirector is not good at creating new menus, there is lots of pitfalls.

Another option is download a menu from Director Zone.



Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

eric76 [Avatar]
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I don't think you understand what I am asking. I was using tmpgenc dvd author 1. something and its very old but good. I can take a dvd or mpeg2 files and import them into dvd author and make a menu and it does not re encode the video but just makes the new dvd files. From what I have worked with powerdirector so far after you either add the vobs or mpg2 files them make new menu it always wants to re encode the video as to where my old software does not do that. I don't want to loose quality.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: I don't think you understand what I am asking. I was using tmpgenc dvd author 1. something and its very old but good. I can take a dvd or mpeg2 files and import them into dvd author and make a menu and it does not re encode the video but just makes the new dvd files. From what I have worked with powerdirector so far after you either add the vobs or mpg2 files them make new menu it always wants to re encode the video as to where my old software does not do that. I don't want to loose quality.

OK.

I doubt you would lose much quality, if any.

Powerdirector does encode the menu. I do know that if the Videos are already in the correct format, after 21% progress the progress is much, much faster.

Up to 21% progress Powerdirector is creating the menu, after that point it is working on adding the videos to the DVD.

I would recommend you try a DVD burn and see what happens.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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The disc authoring will use SVRT automatically to avoid re-rendering if the source clips can match DVD profile (720*480 MPEG-2 8Mbps), audio part depends on your settings, you can click the disc icon on bottom left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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eric76 [Avatar]
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Hello I will try it and see how it does. I am only using trial version before I buy it and so far I am not liking it as it seems to want to crash a lot but is way better then other stuff I have tried. Thanks again guys for posting appreciate it a lot.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Double post. Delete this one.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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If the Powerdirector Trial is crashing on you for no reason you will have the same problem in the paid version.

Crashing problems usually get traced to Video driver problems.

Depending on your brand of Video card you should check the manufacturer for the latest driver except for Nivida, their latest driver has problems you do not want for Powerdirector.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/30790.page
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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