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Advice on Best BluRay Settings for MPEG-4 Videos
jrburke99 [Avatar]
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I have an HD camcorder that records videos in MPEG-4 format, 60fps, 1920x1080. I want to author a BluRay disk with menu and multiple titles. I have my project finished, and made the BluRay using the MPEG-2, 1920x1080/60i settings. When I play the disk on my PS3 on my TV, the video stutters as if running at a very slow framerate. When I check the video files on the disk, they are reported as 24fps, which seems wrong to me, but I may need to be educated a bit. If I play the bluray files on the computer, they look fine.

So with that in mind, what are the best settings for me to use to author a Bluray disk in order to minimize re-encoding? Should I be using H.264 instead? I think I saw somewhere that this is closer to MPEG-4 than the MPEG-2. Then which 1920x1080 setting should I use? Can somebody explain each one? There is a 60i (24Mbps), 60i, and 24p. There is also "SmartFit". Which seems to pick the best enconding to fill the selected disk size, but is there a way to see what it chooses to use if I select that?

Thank you!
jrburke99 [Avatar]
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Oh, and looking at the properties of the files from the camcorder, they appear to be 17Mbps bitrate. So I guess the 24Mbps would be overkill?
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Since your camera make H.264 17 Mbps files you should use the H.264 And HD 1920x1080/60i



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stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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Don;t use smart fit ! It may make the video worse.

You said that the video files play well on your computer but the blu ray disc does not on your PS blu ray player.

Look at the manual for your PS to see what the preferred format is suggested. Is the player on that PS in good shape? The blu ray should not stutter. Did you use good quality blu ray discs. Some are better than others.

There are some standard that the program must comply with. The standard settings will give you the best quality.

You can use either 60 i or 24 frames per second and it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. 24 fps is the quality of standard movies today. It is slightly soft and excellent for slow moving scenes. The 60 fps are sharper and give exccellent results for fats moving video (car races, etc.) In my opinion, you might get more artifacts at the higher fps.

Try to encode to the same quality as the original videos (60fps). Use the SVRT option to select the one best for your videos.

As for format, mpg2 gives a slightly larger video file. Since you are using blu ray dsc, you probably are not worried about the disc not holding the video.

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jrburke99 [Avatar]
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Thanks! Where do I find the SVRT option?
stevek
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Quote: Thanks! Where do I find the SVRT option?


Here if it is available (see image).

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jrburke99 [Avatar]
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Do I need to set these options in "Produce" even though I am creating a bluray disk? I was under the impression that these settings were ignored, since it would encode as MPEG-2 or H.264, not as an AVI or whatever. Am I wrong? Should I also be setting some things under Produce before creating the disk?
stevek
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AVI just happened to be the selection when I made thwe screen shot. I was not suggesting using that.

As for producing. It is my personal preference. If you try to produce a project and it hangs, then there may be something wrong with the project. You can then trouble shoot tha project. You will have lost nothing but a coule of minutes ( or slightly more).

You can produce all the projects you are going to put onto a blu ray before you actually set the menu and burn. You can assured that all of the video files from the production are OK because you can preview them in any computer video player. You can even make changes to the projects if you see something wrong. They will not be encoded again saving some time in that step. The menus and other nice things you add to navigation will be encoded.

It is too late if you wait until you have the blu ray burned. You will have lost a lot more time, introduced a lot more variables that might go wrong and at least one blu ray disc.

SVRT will tell you what format to encode (render ) to. That is the whole purpose of SVRT. Look in the help information to read more.

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jrburke99 [Avatar]
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So assuming I will use Bluray H.264, 1920x1080/60i, and with source files of MPEG-4, 60fps, 17Mbps bitrate, what settings should I use to pre-render/encode each title before making my final bluray with menu?
Carl312
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The same profile except in the Produce module. AVC H.264. 1920x1080/60i.

There is two 1920x1080 profiles in AVC H.264, the second one is 24 Mbps.
You can also use the Intelligent SVRT, and use the same profile your camera outputs.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

jrburke99 [Avatar]
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Great advice! I will need to try this all out. I got my Bluray disk all ready to go, tried to "Burn" to folders, and it ran all night, and then hung, and then gave an error and failed. I have the 2209 patch, which I read on here is faulty, so I will need to wait for the fixed patch.

Can anybody recommend a process by which I would do the pre-produce thing to make the final Bluray "Burn" faster? I have several camcorder videos which I then group by month or event. For example, Maybe videos #1-5 are October, and videos #6-8 are Halloween. I will make one project for October with videos #1-5, and a second project for Halloween with #6-8. Then I create another project and go to "Create Disk" where I choose a menu, and import each of those 2 projects to create 2 Titles on my Bluray disk. This is the only way I see to create separate titles on a disk. Is there an easier way where I can have one single project file with all of my titles and menu, and all? I used to do that in Corel Movie Factory with no problem.

And if I want to "Produce" each of these titles/projects first, what would my process be? Would I open each project file, go to "Produce", and then run that, and then open my final/disk project and import each project as a title? Or do I add the final produced video? Will the chapters be intact? If I encode to AVC H.264 1920x1080/60i, and then try to create a BluRay at H.264 1920x1080/60i, it won't need to encode those files, correct? It should be super fast, right?

Sorry for the long post, I just need to get my thinking straight on this before I waste more time trying out things! The bad 2209 patch has just made this all worse. Thank you!
jrburke99 [Avatar]
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I reinstalled and went back to 2109. When I try to Produce a video to H.264 format, I get an error immediately saying I may need to upgrade my graphics card driver, Quicktime or Windows Media Player. If I try to make a Bluray with H.264, it gives me error code ec00c0005. The 2209 patch seemed to fix this, but came with its own issues. Anyone know when the new patch will be released, or have the fix?
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