What settings for Mini DV footage?

Paul1970

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Apr 25, 2013 09:02

Hi i wonder if anyone can give me advice.

I have finally got round to backing up over 50 mini dv tapes onto a new hard drive in the Dv avi format. I am now looking at editing them into some home movies and make the kids laugh.

The footage is mainly in 4:3 with some of the newer ones shot in 16:9

Can anyone suggest a format to produce the final movie into that i can ideally just watch straight onto my HD TV through a hard drive or streamed from PC. The TV supports most formats accept ironically AVI

I have tried the standard PD11 settings for Mp4 and H264 avc which has produced poor results with grainy footage and jagged lines. The H264 also doesnt seem to play very well on the tv

I have tried to alter the settings, but every time i go to produce the program crashes and a warning that the display driver has unexpectantly stopped working message appears

Any Help would be gratefully received

Michael8511

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Apr 25, 2013 09:17

Hello Paul welcome to the forum. When I was shooting DV.avi they was 720x480 I produce to mpeg 2 720x480. I used 7000 to 8000 bitrate. Intel i7 5960X overclock to 4 Ghz 16 GB of ram.
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Paul1970

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Apr 25, 2013 09:29

Thanks for thr response Michael

I have tried the Mpeg 2 but must admit i can see quite a bit of a degrade in quality from the original footage hence why i was trying the MP4 route

Michael8511

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Apr 25, 2013 09:44

Is the video SD or HD? I know mine was SD and when I played them on a HD TV they did not look that good, but on a old SD TV they look good. Intel i7 5960X overclock to 4 Ghz 16 GB of ram.
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Carl312

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Apr 25, 2013 09:53

You can use MediaInfo to find out what the Mini-DV footage is.

http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

If the Mini-DV is HD you can produce it as AVC either 1280x720 or 1920x1080 depending on the results of MediaInfo.

720x480/576 can be AVC 720x480/576, if you do not like the looks of MPEG-2 HQ.
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Paul1970

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Apr 25, 2013 10:11

Thanks again for your replys

The footage is all SD

GGRussell

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Apr 25, 2013 10:12

Quote: I have tried the Mpeg 2 but must admit i can see quite a bit of a degrade in quality from the original footage hence why i was trying the MP4 route

MP4 has higher compression than MPEG 2. Can't see how that would look any better. There's not much you can do to make standard definition look 'good' on a HDTV, but you can output to 720p which will keep more of the details. Since you will be streaming to the HDTV, pick a 720p format that is compatible with it. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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Heavytiger

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Apr 25, 2013 12:25

Hi

I know your plan was not to burn to DVD, but I have burned many AVI files to DVD at bit rates between 5000 and 8000 and the results are excellent and you don't have to worry about hard drive failure.
Just a thought.

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Paul1970

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Apr 26, 2013 05:24

Many thanks for your replies

I had another play around with different settings last night and I must admit I am not impressed with the quality of output on PD11 compared to my old Pinnacle Studio 15 software

I even tried re producing back to AVI which I assumed would be the same quality however I am getting noticeable "Blocky" Video

I am really disappointed as I have found the actual editing and effects of PD11 to be excellent compared to my old software, but the quality of the movies produced are far superior on Pinnacle

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GGRussell

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Apr 26, 2013 09:19

Make sure that 'hardware acceleration' is UNCHECKED. Yes, it can be faster, but affects the quality. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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Paul1970

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Apr 26, 2013 09:52

Thanks Ill have a look at that tonight, didnt think of that, so fingers crossed

My current line of thought is to try and get a decent copy back to AVI then use Handbrake to produce a MP4 to view on the tv

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PlaySound

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Apr 27, 2013 09:58

Quote: Thanks Ill have a look at that tonight, didnt think of that, so fingers crossed

My current line of thought is to try and get a decent copy back to AVI then use Handbrake to produce a MP4 to view on the tv

MiniDV files usually interlaced bottom line first, PD not has neither allows you to create a profile for this format.
What do I do in this case, let Intelligent SVRT create the profile, so the original video is not changed.
This applies to video that was captured from MiniDV via Firewire cable.
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Paul1970

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Apr 27, 2013 17:09

Thanks everyone for all your responses after a lot of head scratching I seem to have found a working solution.
My DV files were type 2 and Powerdirector only seems to like type 1. I have used DVDate to convert to type 1 and I can now use svrt to recognise and produce to AVI with no blocks.
Another problem I am having now is my footage from my Sanyo Xacti HD camera in SVRT but I will start a new post.

Thanks again