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. Which operating system do you use, W7, Vista, XP?
Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium

2. Which version of PD, See Part A below
Power Director 11 11.0.0.2215

3. Which SR number (available in the "About" box of PD and is NOT the CD-Key!)
VDE120918-01

4. What kind of video source material used (codec / container), extension? We often ask for a 5 to 10 second sample , please provide one as an attachment.
MTS

5. A detailed step by step description of the problem. See Part D below.

6. What anti-virus solution is installed on your PC?
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malware Bytes

7. What codec packs installed? See PD's Readme html file
Unsure Where is this file

8. What other video editing programs are installed - just in case there is a software conflict.
Non

9. What burning software is installed on your PC?
None

10. What type of blank disk was used, if you have a burning create issue?
50gb Verbatim BD-RE but problem also occurs with file

11. What background processes / programs running (especially important for problems with the burning)?
Nothing that is using any CPU

12. Provide the dxdiag log file as an attachment, see Part B below
Attached

Almost Forgot.
Camera is Sony HDR-TD10
it is recording in 3d but I get the problem producing to both 2d and 3d.

Your 3dTestJudderSony.MTS clip is 25fps NOT 24fps so as you have reported:
1) you will see judder every second if encoding back to 24fps as you will drop 1fps each second (4% of the content)
2) there is no judder at 50p/i as it is an exact multiple or match of the original frame rate PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

...also from the footage it looks like you are in Syd PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Hi

I agree with jmone the original clip is 25 fps and the produced clip is 24 fps (23.976 to be exact).

Try Producing again using 25 fps

Here's the information from Media Info that's a tad more accurate than PD

Produced Clip Info:



Original Clip Info:



Happy editing Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Under the Produce Tab click on "Intelligne SVRT" and it should suggest a profile close to what your clip is but I'd guess you should be using the default "AVC 1920x1080/50i (24mbps)" profile PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Quote: Under the Produce Tab click on "Intelligne SVRT" and it should suggest a profile close to what your clip is but I'd guess you should be using the default "AVC 1920x1080/50i (24mbps)" profile

Hi jmone

Intelligent SVRT didn't recognise the clip

All the best Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Quote:

Quote: Under the Produce Tab click on "Intelligne SVRT" and it should suggest a profile close to what your clip is but I'd guess you should be using the default "AVC 1920x1080/50i (24mbps)" profile

Hi jmone

Intelligent SVRT didn't recognise the clip

All the best

Hi CHF, I guess it is because it it a 3D clip, if you click on Produce --> 3D --> then Intelligent SVRT, PD suggests the AVC 1920x1080/50i (24 Mbps) profile is the go.... but I would have thought it would also suggest the same in 2D instead of nothing. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Thanks Guys,
Some great feedback there. (I am in Perth)

So I understand now why 50i gets rid of Judder.
The problem is I need to produce a Bluray. The only options I have are 1920x1080/24p or 1280x720/50p when I go to the create disc menu. if I go 1280x720/50p then I am going to lose resolution.

If there was a 25p option I would definately select that.

Thanks
Rod

My understanding is the "Official Spec" for 3D BD is only:
•1920×1080 @ 23.976 fps progressive
•1280×720 @ 59.94 fps progressive
•1280×720 @ 50 fps progressive

But as you have seen with your Camcorder, the AVCHD (of which BD is a subset) has a wider set of options, including for 3D:
•1920×1080 @ 23.976 fps progressive
•1280×720 @ 59.94 fps progressive
•1280×720 @ 50 fps progressive
PLUS
•1920×1080 @ 60 and 50 fps interlaced

So you have a couple of choices
1) Burn at 1920×1080 @ 23.976 fps progressive and put up with the judder
2) Burn at 1280×720 @ 50 fps progressive and live with lower res (note: you may not see any difference in the resolution change and this is definatly a potentially good option)

OR....cheat and see if this works
3) Burn as a AVCHD to a "Removable Disk" with the with the HD 1920x1080/50i (or even the high bit rate progressive 50p (28Mbps) profile) with the AVCHD 3D output format (you could try the others). Once it is created on the "removable disk" use another program like Imgburn to burn the folders to the disc. Put in the player and see if it works!
PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

thanks Jmone,
Thats sad news. I was hoping to distribute a bluray that looked great and bought the camera because it could do 3d 1080p.
I guess I'll know what to look for next time.

I did try the 1280x720/50p but my samsung BD player had trouble processing it. I'll try again.

That is always the hard bit with new tech - your Cam supports a "new" format but then you may need a TV or Player to also support it. Don't give up try the "hack" I suggested as it may work (but if you player is struggling with 50p then it may simply not have the processing power for high bit rate material). PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

I'm sure others have found out what to do - find the Sony forum and check out what others are doing. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Quote:

Quote:

Quote: Under the Produce Tab click on "Intelligne SVRT" and it should suggest a profile close to what your clip is but I'd guess you should be using the default "AVC 1920x1080/50i (24mbps)" profile

Hi jmone
Intelligent SVRT didn't recognise the clip
All the best

Hi CHF, I guess it is because it it a 3D clip, if you click on Produce --> 3D --> then Intelligent SVRT, PD suggests the AVC 1920x1080/50i (24 Mbps) profile is the go.... but I would have thought it would also suggest the same in 2D instead of nothing.

You're right! I didn't select the 3D. Intelligent SVRT is um, Intelligent

Thanks Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Hi Rocketman

In the Create Disc mode I found this profile using Side by Side Half Width that allows a H.264 1920x1080 50i burn to Blu-ray, that may be of help to you.

As I don't own a 3D camera, I have no idea what this means



Happy editing Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
CubbyHouseFilms
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My Vimeo Channel
PD3.5, 5, 6 & 7. Computer: Dell Dimension 5150, Intel Pen. 2.80 GHz, 2GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 256MB, Windows XP Pro!!
PD8 Ultra v3022. Computer: Dell Studio 1747, Intel, i7 Q740 1.73 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 560v 1GB, Windows 7 Ult. 64
PD10 Ultra v2023. Computer: HP Pavilion dv7, Intel, i7 2630 2.00 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 6770 2GB, Windows 7 Pre. 64
PD12 Ultra v2930. Computer: HP Pavilion dv7, Intel, i7 2630 2.00 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 6770 2GB, Windows 7 Pre. 64
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Thanks Neil,
Unfortunately Half SBS gives you 1x1080p video stream with the left eye taking up the left half and the right eye taking up the right.
Your TV then stretches each half and shows you 1 at a time using shutter glasses. Essentially you get half of 1080p reolution.

Cheers
Rod

It still may be a good option to try as for 3D you are only going to get "Half" of either Vertical Res, Horisontal Res, or Frame Rate... I'd be crusing the Sony forums and see what others are doing but please post back as I'm interested in how you go. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

...and by the way the "Hack" method I described worked for me in that I could get TMT to play it but no idea if it was in the correct 3d format.... PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

I did some googling and there is another (obvious) option. Use the Burn as a AVCHD to a "Removable Disk" and point it a memory card compatible with your Sony Cam then use the Cam as the player to your AV System. The downside is you will need to store the finished project on memory sticks (or copy them to the memory stick when you want to play them) + you would have to use your cam as the player. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG