Quote: I am having trouble with the Insert Project command using PD10. I am working on a fairly large and complex video editing project. I have broken it up into 10 "scenes", each scene being a separate project. I have all the editing completed on each project (scene), and am trying to combine them into one big project using the Insert Project command. When, I insert a project, though, I lose some of my edits on the inserted project. For instance, if there are particular scenes I have lowered or raised the volume of the audio on the video track, or raised or lowered the volume on the soundtrack, once the project is inserted, the volume edits revert back to their default level. I know a workaround would be to produce each scene to make ten individual videos, import the ten videos into a project, then produce the final video from this project. But I understand there is some loss of quality each time you produce the same video. Also, I still have to add narration, which seems like it would be easier to do by having the whole project together. I really can't see how the project flows if I am working on it in pieces. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

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Hi Deepfins

Welcome to the volunteer forum

I cannot give you a direct answer as to why your volume problems exists when you put all your projects together.

When I work on a large project my workflow is similar to yours except:

1. When I have completed Part 1, I Produce my Part 1 Project as close to the original video files as possible.

2. I do this for all projects until I have 10 (ten) Produced files

3. I then import all these Produced files into 1 (one) new Project.

I then use this 'Final Project' to burn to BD (it's easy to insert chapters too! Or I Produce this Final Project with all clips.

Happy editing Happing editing

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Quote: I am having trouble with the Insert Project command using PD10. I am working on a fairly large and complex video editing project. I have broken it up into 10 "scenes", each scene being a separate project. I have all the editing completed on each project (scene), and am trying to combine them into one big project using the Insert Project command. When, I insert a project, though, I lose some of my edits on the inserted project. For instance, if there are particular scenes I have lowered or raised the volume of the audio on the video track, or raised or lowered the volume on the soundtrack, once the project is inserted, the volume edits revert back to their default level. I know a workaround would be to produce each scene to make ten individual videos, import the ten videos into a project, then produce the final video from this project. But I understand there is some loss of quality each time you produce the same video. Also, I still have to add narration, which seems like it would be easier to do by having the whole project together. I really can't see how the project flows if I am working on it in pieces. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Here I have a problem with audio in trasição FAD does not work when saved in video file.
If your case, try to save only the audio first, add this audio, the video of your project, it may be over the original audio, save the video now.
Works for me.
Note: In my case the audio works in the normal timeline, the problem appears after a saved video AMD-FX 8350 / 8GB DDR3
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CubbyHouseFilms and Playsound, thank you very much for the suggestions.

Playsound, just so I am clear, are you suggesting that I extract the audio from the video clips, create and save a separate audio track made from the audio clips, then import, drag, and drop the audio track over the audio portion of the video clips in the original timeline? Sounds like a lot of work. As far as I know, you can only extract the audio from one clip at a time. You can't highlight all the video clips in the timeline, and extract the audio in one section. The music in the soundtrack is a different story. You could delete all the video clips, leaving only the individual songs in the soundtrack, produce it, then import it back into your project and drag it into place. It seems to me if you are going to have an "Insert Project" function, it ought to be able to insert the project while maintaining all the edits from the original. In my case, it should carry over the volume mixing levels between the audio in my video clips, and the songs in my sound track, instead of reverting back to the default volume levels. I will play around with your suggestion. Is there a way to extract all the audio at once from all the video clips in your timeline?

CubbyHouseFilms, I have a question for you. I was aware of the work around you are suggesting, and have done this on other complex projects. That is, you divide your big project into smaller projects, produce each project, then import the videos you produced into a new project, and produce a final video or create a disc from this project. My concern is loss of video quality by producing the same video clips more than once. Maybe I am overly concerned, and the degradation in video quality won't even be noticeable after only being produced twice. As you state, in terms of maintaining quality, the first step is producing the video in the correct format to begin with. Maybe this warrants a brand new post because it is a different subject entirely, in which case the forum community can admonish me :, but here goes! My camera records in HD 1920X1080, 30 frames per second progressive, recorded as 60i. I have experimented with producing in different formats, and it appears I get the best quality (sharpness, color, minimize jitter) when I produce in HD 1920X1080 at 60i/24mbps. Is there some other combination you would recommend trying?

Thank you, both!
Thanks, John

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Quote:
CubbyHouseFilms, I have a question for you. I was aware of the work around you are suggesting, and have done this on other complex projects. That is, you divide your big project into smaller projects, produce each project, then import the videos you produced into a new project, and produce a final video or create a disc from this project. My concern is loss of video quality by producing the same video clips more than once. Maybe I am overly concerned, and the degradation in video quality won't even be noticeable after only being produced twice. As you state, in terms of maintaining quality, the first step is producing the video in the correct format to begin with. Maybe this warrants a brand new post because it is a different subject entirely, in which case the forum community can admonish me :, but here goes! My camera records in HD 1920X1080, 30 frames per second progressive, recorded as 60i. I have experimented with producing in different formats, and it appears I get the best quality (sharpness, color, minimize jitter) when I produce in HD 1920X1080 at 60i/24mbps. Is there some other combination you would recommend trying?
Thank you, both!

Hi

I found there is virtually no loss in quality so long as you maintain your 1920x1080 and your mbps. I see you camera settings (HD 1920x1080 at 60i/24mbps) are similar to mine HD 1920x1080 at 50i/24mbps. You're NTSC, I'm PAL.

Somewhere buried deep in this forum, I read of a member Produced a project then imported that Produced file and Produced again for about a dozens time and found there little loss.

As a rule, always Produce to the highest quality possible, even to 28mbps.

You can always decrease quality but never increase it.

Happy editing Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Quote: CubbyHouseFilms and Playsound, thank you very much for the suggestions.

Playsound, just so I am clear, are you suggesting that I extract the audio from the video clips, create and save a separate audio track made from the audio clips, then import, drag, and drop the audio track over the audio portion of the video clips in the original timeline? Sounds like a lot of work. As far as I know, you can only extract the audio from one clip at a time.

The PD is very fast to save only the audio, (Producer / Save audio)
Not extract audio from each clip.
When the project ready just save the audio as a whole.
Add audio to this project, mute, delete or overwrite the original audio.
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have done this regularly because SVRT3 using and producing in MPEG2 always problems in the audio transitions in PD10 and PD11 also.
I can not guarantee it will work for you, but it never hurts to try
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CubbyHouseFilms and Playsound, thanks for the great input.

Playsound, Oh, now I get it. I always wondered what that button was for with the musical bars on it. That's really slick, a quick and easy way to extract and save an entire audio track. I'll give that a try. Thanks for the great tip!

CubbyHouseFilms, one last quick question. My camera shoots at 30 frames/second. I am not sure how that translates into mbps, but I was under the assumption that if your raw video clips were shot at 24 mbps, you can't improve the quality of your finished video by producing it in 28 mbps. Is that correct? Thanks, John

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Panasonic HC-X900

CubbyHouseFilms, one last quick question. My camera shoots at 30 frames/second. I am not sure how that translates into mbps, but I was under the assumption that if your raw video clips were shot at 24 mbps, you can't improve the quality of your finished video by producing it in 28 mbps. Is that correct?

Hi

Frames Per Second and Mega Bits Per Second are two totally different things.

Mbps is the bitrate of the data.

Happy editing : D Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Mbps, fps, codecs, container files, interlacing, pixels, progressive, etc.,etc., it all gets very complicated. But I guess if you want to shoot and produce consistently good video versus just getting lucky once in awhile, you really need to make the effort to understand this stuff, get to know your camera, and become intimate with the editing tools. These forums are great for that.

Regarding the idiosyncrasies of PowerDirector, I try not to get too frustrated with the program. I remind myself that 15 years ago it would have taken a room full of editors in a professional studio a week to do what I can now do in my living room in an hour. It is really quite amazing what technology has handed the average Joe.

Thank you both for the help! Thanks, John

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