Poor DVD compression

gpklos5

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Aug 08, 2012 11:36

I'm using PD10 DELUXE which I just bought. I created a movie to burn to a regular DVD (NON BLUE RAY). I also created the same movie using Windows Live Movie Make and Windows DVD maker. The movie I created using Windows Live Movie Maker fit on a single 4.7 gig dvd, but when I created the same movie with PD10 Deluxe (No special menu's etc or extras) the move was roughly 6.5 gig (HQ encoding). Now if I burn with SMART FIX encoding it fits, but the picture quality is bad. Now if I burn with HQ -Best Quality it doesn't fit (6.5 gig) but the picture is equivalent to Windows Live Movie Maker. How is it that Windows Live Movie Make, which is completely free, can burn that movie to a 4.7 gig dvd with much better video quality than PD 10. Or is there some secret/hidden option to help with this?
Thanks,

Gary

Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Aug 08, 2012 11:43

Quote: I'm using PD10 DELUXE which I just bought. I created a movie to burn to a regular DVD (NON BLUE RAY). I also created the same movie using Windows Live Movie Make and Windows DVD maker. The movie I created using Windows Live Movie Maker fit on a single 4.7 gig dvd, but when I created the same movie with PD10 Deluxe (No special menu's etc or extras) the move was roughly 6.5 gig (HQ encoding). Now if I burn with SMART FIX encoding it fits, but the picture quality is bad. Now if I burn with HQ -Best Quality it doesn't fit (6.5 gig) but the picture is equivalent to Windows Live Movie Maker. How is it that Windows Live Movie Make, which is completely free, can burn that movie to a 4.7 gig dvd with much better video quality than PD 10. Or is there some secret/hidden option to help with this?
Thanks,

Gary

If you are starting with a AVI video the DVD size estimate in Powerdirector is way off. If you start with a MPEG-2 HQ video, the size estimate is much closer.

You switch your disk preference in Create Disk Module to DVD 8.5 and then burn a disk folder (uncheck Burn Disk).

After the folder is created, you check the size, and you will see the actual size of the DVD. You can then burn that folder to the disk using Disk burning software.

The best DVD profile is DVD HQ.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

gpklos5

Newbie Joined: Aug 05, 2012 15:21 Messages: 11 Offline

Aug 08, 2012 13:18

I will have to try that. I'm starting with an MTS file which is what I use for Windows Live Video maker also.
Thanks for the quick response!
Gary

PlaySound

Senior Contributor Joined: Dec 02, 2010 10:26 Messages: 2031 Offline

Aug 08, 2012 17:06

gpklos5
I'm using PD10 DELUXE which I just bought. I created a movie to burn to a regular DVD (NON BLUE RAY)

Your video should have more than one hour, does not fit on 4.7GB DVD. HQ quality.
In this case, by selecting (Smart Fit) or (Standard Qualyti) resolution 352x480 practically drops to half the maximum 720x480.
One way around this limitation in PD10.
Save the edited file as MPEG2 video (HQ) in a folder on HD. (See if the quality is good)
You need to create new profile HQ with lower bitrate
- 6000 bitrate for approximately 90 minutes
Add this file on the timeline verifies that connects the SVRT3 (green) if so, finalize your DVD.
Usually the PD10 connects SVRT what keeps the quality of the video during the disk creation.

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gpklos5

Newbie Joined: Aug 05, 2012 15:21 Messages: 11 Offline

Aug 09, 2012 12:51

I tried burning the DVD to the harddrive with MPEG2, which worked, but the size of the folder was still over 6 gig, which is the same as what it said it would be. So I don't know how that is going to fit on a 4.7 gig disk which was suggested.

I don't know how to create a new HQ profile with a lower bitrate. Of course I haven't looked into that yet at all or anything related to SVRT.

Any further description would be helpful.
Thanks,
Gary

PlaySound

Senior Contributor Joined: Dec 02, 2010 10:26 Messages: 2031 Offline

Aug 09, 2012 13:38

[code]gpklos5
Tentei gravar o DVD para o disco rígido com o MPEG2

see pictures
1 - Create new profile

2 - Check ON SRVT3


Filename	profile pd10.jpg	Download
Description
Filesize	152 Kbytes
Downloaded:	678 time(s)


Filename	SVRT3 check.jpg	Download
Description
Filesize	72 Kbytes
Downloaded:	616 time(s)

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gpklos5

Newbie Joined: Aug 05, 2012 15:21 Messages: 11 Offline

Aug 09, 2012 23:12

so you are saying to

1. Make a new profile as described above
2. Add videos to timeline
3. Go to PRODUCE and select the new profile
4. PRODUCE to MPEG2 (which saves the video as a .MPG)
5. Then CREATE DISK with the newly created .MPG???
Thanks again for the help. I didn't think I even needed to do anything with PRODUCE if I was just making a DVD.
Gary

PlaySound

Senior Contributor Joined: Dec 02, 2010 10:26 Messages: 2031 Offline

Aug 09, 2012 23:58

gpklos5
so you are saying to
1. Make a new profile as described above
2. Add videos to timeline
3. Go to PRODUCE and select the new profile
4. PRODUCE to MPEG2 (which saves the video as a .MPG)
5. Then CREATE DISK with the newly created .MPG???

Do not ask me why, but PD has no profile for 90 and 120 minutes with resolution 720x480 (DVD4.7Gb.) As exists in other DVD authoring programs.
Thus can be done just now made a DVD 115 minutes maintaining the video source (. VOB) with bitrate varying from 4500-5500 kbps. 720x480 resolution
The process is fast, I save a DVD folder (VIDEO_TS) on the hard drive first.
It takes about 2 minutes, (without creating menu)
Most of the time I burn 2 DVD at a time (use 2 burners) PD10 does not it, use Nero

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stevek

Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline

Aug 10, 2012 09:07

The bottom line - do not talk about file size if you are talking about putting a video on a DVD. Time is the key.

You can get about one hour of best quality DVD on a single layer DVD; twice that for a double layer.
If you try to get more by lowering the quality, you can but then you have a low quality version of where you really want to have good quality.

Never try to put more than 2 hours of video on a DVD unless you use a high compression format. With standard compression, the video may be cut off at the end of the disc.

Once you have your video encoded at the highest quality to an ISO file, you can try to use something like the free IMGBurn to burn it.

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