Quote: I have a video of my son's band that is one long piece. They played 8 songs. I know how to split the video up and have done so. My goal is to have 8 separate video files to use separately. I'm not seeing how to dump these separate clips out for later use. How would you experienced users handle that task?

You can create seperate projects for the individual songs. Do this by loading the full video, split at the desired points. Use the 'Save As' eight times ie: song01, song02 etc. Best method.

Or you can split the main video at the desired points.
Remove all clips excepth the first one.
Produce that clip/song to the desired format.
Click the undo button to return all the removed clips to the timeline.
Remove all except the second clip and then produce again. Repeat for each clip.

I have used both methods depending on the intended use of the project and the finished clips.

Hal

Quote: I have a video of my son's band that is one long piece. They played 8 songs. I know how to split the video up and have done so. My goal is to have 8 separate video files to use separately. I'm not seeing how to dump these separate clips out for later use. How would you experienced users handle that task?

Go into the Chapter Room and set a chapter at each clip (there is a button for that). Or at the beginning of each song.

Then save as a project file of the complete project with the cuts and chapter points. Maybe a name like Whole Project.

For the first chapter (song) delete everything past the Chapter 2 beginning leaving only Chapter one. Save project as Chapter 1 or the song name. Produce that Chapter as a video.

Load Whole Project again, Now delete chapter 1 and chapter 3 and beyond leaving only chapter 2. Save project as Chapter 2 or the song name. Produce Chapter 2 as a Video.

Repeat as many times as you have chapters (songs), deleting all but the one chapter you are producing to a Video.

When you are done, you should have the 8 Videos, one of each song. If you produce each song by its song name, you will have the videos named the song name.

Thanks guys. Seems like there should be a "produce selected only" option. Maybe next time

Quote: Thanks guys. Seems like there should be a "produce selected only" option. Maybe next time

There is a very good reason to use multiple project files, one for each song.

Here is one scenario:
You want, at some time, to combine two or more of the songs into one video. Then you see that you have a small section of one song that you would like to change in some way. With the individual project for the song you can make the change without changing the main project as a whole.

I break many/most of my projects down like this, for this very purpose. I do not want to have to produce the project as a whole every time I see a flaw or something I would like to change. I try to find a logical split of the project to later knit together into the final.

In a recent slide show video for an upcoming wedding, I have 5 parts/projects.
1 - The beginning/intro to the couple.
2 - Life of the Bride.
3 - Life of the groom
4 - Friends of the Bride & Groom
5 - The engagement photos

These parts are then brought together for the final production. With 5 projects I can make changes to any one of the sections/parts without having to disturb the others.

Having the 5 projects also makes it easier to manage the production as a whole. I dont have to worry about what a change in the first part will do to the following parts. It also reduces the stress on the computer.

Hope this helps a little.

Hal

Adobe Premiere Elements has, for years, had the ability to highlight any part of a video, and export it in various formats, quickly and easily

The idea of having to create separate projects or create chapters and delete all except the one to be exported may be a functional work around. It is also, very time consuming, and tedious.

As good as PowerDirector 10 is: The inability to export any part of a video quickly and conveniently is a serious flaw and should be addressed as soon as possible.

Many of us need the ability to do this on an ongoing basis and the lack of this capability makes PowerDirector 10 far less useful.

Video editing programs are like digital cameras. No matter what camera you make there is always one missing feature that someone wants.

No video editing program, even the ones that cost thousands of dollars has every feature, every person wants. Work with what you have and be thankful you can do 90% of your editing needs for under $100. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

I too use the multiple project approach (combing the outputed videos in to a master project)
So a holiday might look like
Part 1 day1, day 2, ------
Part 2 day 1, day2, day 3 -----

etc

I did this for recent Alaska trip and by using PDt his way, I was easily able to update protions of the overall project and re mux the master - This has probably been the easist way I have found, to make changes to long (21 day trip) project
I foud that by producing each part seperatly and when updating producing and over writting the original file the master proejct was also updated (except if I made it longer grrr) this meant i could produce a draft of each chapter, have the wife proof the content while i move on then go back update the first project and have the changes carried through to the master version



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"Video editing programs are like digital cameras. No matter what camera you make there is always one missing feature that someone wants.

No video editing program, even the ones that cost thousands of dollars has every feature, every person wants. Work with what you have and be thankful you can do 90% of your editing needs for under $100. "

The problem with your statement is that you assume that without the ability to highlight any part of a video, and export it in various formats, quickly and easily the program can do 90% of my editing needs for under $100. It's just not true.

Without this ability: I have to do most of my editing in Adobe Premiere Elements and then use PowerDirector 10 only as a final assembly program. This makes the program far less useful to me and probably everyone who has the same need.

Again, while the multiple project approach may be appropriate as a workaround - it is exceptionally slow and tedious as well as less flexible. With Premiere elements I can highlight any area of a video and export within seconds.

I really don't think some of you, who have never experienced the speed and accuracy of this feature, understand the magnitude of the issue.

Any of the proposed workarounds require dramatically more work and are much more complicated.

Again as I mentioned previously: I think PowerDirector 10 is a good program. I'd like to see it become an excellent program.

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The problem with your statement is that you assume that without the ability to highlight any part of a video, and export it in various formats, quickly and easily the program can do 90% of my editing needs for under $100. It's just not true.

Again it is not true.....for you.......not me with over 200 videos produced and uploaded to youtube.

My statement is still true, there will always be some features that someone has cemented into their editing procedures that they think they can't do without.

Regarding your problem I would prefer to do all of my editing in one program than start to loose quality by multiple rendering. Every time you render a video you change the quality of the raw footage. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Again it is not true.....for you.......not me with over 200 videos produced and uploaded to youtube.

It's irrelevant how many YouTube videos you have produced - that has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue.

My statement is still true, there will always be some features that someone has cemented into their editing procedures that they think they can't do without.

As far as this condescending statement is concerned: I have both Premiere Elements and PowerDirector 10 and have tried both procedures, so I am thoroughly familiar with the issues.

Perhaps you are the one who 'has cemented into your editing procedures features that you think you can't do without - very inefficient ones at that.'

If you don't mind all the extra work and complexity - it's fine with me. You obviously haven't experienced the much simpler and more efficient Premiere Elements solution, so you probably believe your procedures are effective - again fine with me.

Regarding your problem I would prefer to do all of my editing in one program than start to loose quality by multiple rendering. Every time you render a video you change the quality of the raw footage.

Is this statement supposed to be a news flash? I would think it obvious by my suggesting a way to improve the usability of PowerDirector 10 that I too would prefer to have a single software solution. On the other hand I believe your comment is just another condescending remark meant to imply that I must not know what I am doing, since I don't agree with you!

For those of you with a more constructive and objective point of view: The ability to highlight and export sections of video easily and quickly is not trivial. This feature offers improvements to your productivity and creativity that can be profound.

There is no purpose to supporting a more complex and time consuming solution when a simpler, more efficient, and more flexible solution could be implemented.

I'm not sure why the issue has turned so provocative.

One might say that one man's magnitude is not the same as another's.

I, too, like many of us, use more than one NLE. I, too, would like a quick and easy "produce selection only" BUT, probably because of the way I shoot - many small clips - it is rare I feel the need to produce a short section within a bigger project, if I do, and I am in PD, I just split out the section, delete the rest, produce, and undo. Which is not so much different to accurately selecting and producing and deselecting.

I believe Robert mentioned his youtube videos as an indication that he didn't see the issue in the same light, so in that regard didn't see the problem as one of great magnitude.

None of us use the same techniques nor the same workflow, I suspect, and some workflows are more efficient and time saving than others. On the other hand, some of us quite enjoy editing irrespective of the efficiency so again may not see the issue in the same light as each other.

I'm not sure there is a optimised workflow that should be adopted and so bringing in comparisons of multiple NLE features perhaps serves to confuse rather than help, particularly as no-one here is on the CL development team.

However, I accept that the issue is one of considerable magnitude to some. Perhaps a suggestion to CL might be in order, although I suspect that it has been suggested more than once but has yet to see the light of day.

Cheers
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I’m just tiptoeing in here.

I have, during the past year or so, actually found the ability to produce
bits within a project useful. When I in a section of a video “trouble” with a lot
of stuff going on, I may produce 1-3 variations- watch the section produced and
choose the one I want. (not having to open different project files)
Not having a super-duper (but still decent) computer, the produced seconds
where the edit is really heavy with many tracks used, lighten the burden
of the project.

Nina
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I'm not sure why the issue has turned so provocative.

One might say that one man's magnitude is not the same as another's.

I, too, like many of us, use more than one NLE. I, too, would like a quick and easy "produce selection only" BUT, probably because of the way I shoot - many small clips - it is rare I feel the need to produce a short section within a bigger project, if I do, and I am in PD, I just split out the section, delete the rest, produce, and undo. Which is not so much different to accurately selecting and producing and deselecting.

I believe Robert mentioned his youtube videos as an indication that he didn't see the issue in the same light, so in that regard didn't see the problem as one of great magnitude.

None of us use the same techniques nor the same workflow, I suspect, and some workflows are more efficient and time saving than others. On the other hand, some of us quite enjoy editing irrespective of the efficiency so again may not see the issue in the same light as each other.

I'm not sure there is a optimised workflow that should be adopted and so bringing in comparisons of multiple NLE features perhaps serves to confuse rather than help, particularly as no-one here is on the CL development team.

However, I accept that the issue is one of considerable magnitude to some. Perhaps a suggestion to CL might be in order, although I suspect that it has been suggested more than once but has yet to see the light of day.

Cheers
Adrian

I also don't see why this needs to be provocative. I went out and looked at Robert's videos and it's clear that he has little or no need for the current implementation, in PD 10 or my suggested alternative. This begs the question as to why he felt the need to comment, in a condescending manner, on an issue that has little or no relevance to him.

Leaving that aside: Many people shoot like you do - many small clips. For example a 7-day cruise would fit this category. This is an issue that is important and directly affects many that use PD 10.

When you say "I just split out the section, delete the rest, produce, and undo. Which is not so much different to accurately selecting and producing and deselecting." This is where we might disagree. If you have say 3 clips its not a big deal, but still slower. What if you have 20 short clips and you want to export clips 4-8, then 11-13, and others. Your method is radically more time consuming and inconvenient. I've done it your way and the method implemented in Premiere Elements - It's a night and day difference.

You say "None of us use the same techniques nor the same workflow, I suspect, and some workflows are more efficient and time saving than others." This is quite true, but here we aren't really talking about workflow differences. We are instead talking about a procedure within a given workflow designed to provide essentially the same end results.

So the question is: Why would anyone not want to implement a simpler procedure that provides more flexibility, takes in many cases far less time, and gets the same results?

So the question is: Why would anyone not want to implement a simpler procedure that provides more flexibility, takes in many cases far less time, and gets the same results?

Because they can't - in PD . However, they can if they buy another NLE.

That question is best directed at PD's development team as no one here can influence (directly) the development of PD.

So if PD is one's editor of choice - for whatever reason, good, bad or indifferent - your preferred method is not available at all, so any discussion about how to do such things in PD cannot benefit from a comparison with another NLE.

Of course, you make a valid point, but this is, predominantly, a forum of solutions to problems found in PD, with members contributing possible solutions and/or workarounds.

Of course, advice might be given to buy something else if the missing feature is critical, if not then solutions within PD's features are more appropriate. The alternative is for posts to become opinions and cluttered up with non-productive (and often un-implementable (if that's a word)) ideas, with threads getting longer and running the danger of becoming a slanging match, often based on semantics rather than constructive solutions for the original poster.

As I said earlier, suggestions for improvement are best made to CL directly, unless the members want to have a debate and a consensus arises that carries more weight with CL. That has been done in the past - a sort of straw poll, if you like. If you were to start one, I would side with you, otherwise any debate on a "produce selection only" option is a waste of time.

Cheers
Adrian

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The method I would use to produce 3 sections of the timeline is as follows:

1) Set the In and Out points (those yellow flanges on either side of the blue head of the timeline pointer) for the first section.
2) Click the Copy button.
3) Save current Project A if you haven't already done so.
4) File > New Workspace.
5) Click the Paste button.
6) Save As Project B (That's the first section).

7) Open Project A.
Set the In and Out points for the next section.
9) Click the Copy button.
10) File > New Workspace.
11) Click the Paste button.
12) Save as Project C (That's the second section).

13) Open Project A.
14) Set the In and Out points.
15) Click the Copy button.
16) File > New Workspace.
17) Click the Paste button.
1 Save as Project D (That's the third section).

Now batch produce the three projects:

19) File > Batch Produce.
20) Click the Add (plus sign) button
21) Select Project B.
22) Click the Edit (Pencil) button and set up the produce format. When done, click the OK button.
23) Click the Add (plus sign) button
24) Select Project C and D.
25) Click the Start button.

If you get an error message, do not click the OK button. You can wait for all the other productions to finish or fail, and then click OK. If you click the OK button, then all remaining productions will be aborted.

If you want to remember the last in and out points in the main project (Project A), you can set timeline markers instead of changing to the chapter room and setting chapter markers. To set a timeline marker, right-click on the blue head of the timeline pointer, and select Add Timeline Marker. You'll have to save the current project before doing File > New Workspace so that the timeline markers can be saved.

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