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andybaz [Avatar]
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Hi all, struggling with powerdirector 10 , a very simple exercise,saved a 1.5hr video footage via powerdirector, trimmed it, and added to time line, footage size 1.35gb, then move to create dvd etc, and the little chart on bottom right of screen clearly shows the filmed footage to be 6023mb and shows my blank dvd is 4700mb and then clearly states it will not burn.

So does any one have any views on this ? to me it seems i can not burn or create any dvds of my video footage ?, opinions would be greatly appreaited.


I bought powerdirector 10 so i could utilise the tittle menu pages, but it seems this purchase a waste of time ?

Any help greatly appreiated before i give up on this ......... windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Instead of "producing' directly to a DVD disc, first produce the video in a format such as WMV or MOV or MP4.

That will usually produce a smaller sized file, IE your 1.35Gb.

Once that has been produced, use a DVD burner program (Power DVD for example) and then burn the smaller sized file to your disc where you will have plenty of room. ~Tom~
HalCon
Senior Contributor Location: Charlottetown, PEI Joined: Mar 01, 2008 10:36 Messages: 719 Offline
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Quote: Hi all, struggling with powerdirector 10, a very simple exercise, saved a 1.5hr video footage via powerdirector, trimmed it, and added to time line, footage size 1.35gb, then move to create dvd etc, and the little chart on bottom right of screen clearly shows the filmed footage to be 6023mb and shows my blank dvd is 4700mb and then clearly states it will not burn.

Where did you get this figure for the size of the file? Or is this a typo?

Further down you state the size of the footage is 6023mb. For this amount of footage you will have to use a D/L DVD.

A standard S/L DVD in High Quality recording will hold about 50 minutes of video. Add a menu and you may have to trim the video a little shorter.

There are other options available to get more video on a DVD but they will reduce the quality of the video.

Hal

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andybaz [Avatar]
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Thanks for the views, i imported a video to the pd10 programme and placed it on the time line, i right clicked to find its properties and it showed as 1.35gb, once i done my required editing, i moved to create disc, i did not use the produce option at all.IN create disc, on the bottom left corner it showed 6023mb/4700mb, so it clearly showed that for some reason my footage had increased somehow and that was without using any of the nice fancy templates.

So produce is probably what i should be doing, so the stages i should follow are - 1.capture/import 2.edit 3.produce.

Then when i have produced and saved accordingly, then go to create an see what happens ? ....... off to experiment windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
jerrys
Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline
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Quote: Thanks for the views, i imported a video to the pd10 programme and placed it on the time line, i right clicked to find its properties and it showed as 1.35gb, once i done my required editing, i moved to create disc, i did not use the produce option at all.IN create disc, on the bottom left corner it showed 6023mb/4700mb, so it clearly showed that for some reason my footage had increased somehow and that was without using any of the nice fancy templates.

So produce is probably what i should be doing, so the stages i should follow are - 1.capture/import 2.edit 3.produce.

Then when i have produced and saved accordingly, then go to create an see what happens ? ....... off to experiment

I believe the recommendation is to use another program to burn the folder to your disk. PD will simply repeat its goof. Jerry Schwartz
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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Set PD to 8.5GB disc size. Burn to a folder. Use third party disc burning software to burn the folder to a disc. It should be small enough. PowerDirector is notoriously bad at estimating disc size.

With that said, what video format is the 1.35GB video? DVD is MPEG 2 HQ. If you source video is MPEG 4, for example, it will get much bigger converting to MPEG 2 for disc. __________________________________
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andybaz [Avatar]
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update: i set my pd10 to capture video (1.5hr long) in dvd setting DVD SP, i then edited it, cut off the front & rear frames with no pictures,and saved project at various points so i didnt lose my work.
The video size is now 1.35gb, i have taken some screen pc shots which will post up shortly.

So i have captured & editted, i then went to CREATE, menu preference - no menu and the dvd symbol bottom right now shows this video size is 6032mb/4700mb, time length 1.33.50, so as you can see will clearly not fit onto a normal DVD.

So i then went to PRODUCE - standard 2D and saved as MPEG2, profile DVD SP, time 1.33.50.24 and clicked START, so this produced a video of 2.4gb on my pc, i now ask myself will 2.4gb fit a 4.7gb dvd ?.

So do we think i should copy my video's using ULEAD, add all my tittles and triming there and then import the full project into PD and create a menu/disc ?????? , pretty sure i already tried this, i takes my 1.35gb etc video and increases it to 6000+gb, and if i use a template included in the PD10 software the 6000 value will increase.

A simple question again ... you can buy books, guide to windows etc for dummies, does anyone know who does a book for PD10, this software was bought 3 weeks ago, brand new for £80 in a well know branded shop, currently disappointed with it, i wish to copy my videos to dvd and it seems that PD10 cant do it.

Keep your views coming friends, pics & screen shots uploaded to photobucket later today for you all to this what i am experiencing

Cheers andy windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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If you just want a user guide, click on Downloads at the top of this page, and choose Software Updates. Next to PowerDirector there is a download for the user guide. I doubt you will find the answer to this question in there, but you may learn a lot of other things. __________________________________
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andybaz [Avatar]
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Hi, already been down user guide and read the book that came with the software, experimenting now with a 5 minute vid footage, using ulead then import into pd10 and see what happens.

Update, to add 210mb of simple video footage to the time line with no tittles, no transition, no fancy gimmicks to make the work piece look nice ! , when you go to produce/create, your work is automatically increased to 3.53mb, so to sum up in this exercise, i am assuming that you can only burn 1 hr of video footage probably with no fancy tittles to 1 x 4.7gb dvd

Cheers to those who have commented much appreaited, andy

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Jun 30. 2012 06:23

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Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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i now ask myself will 2.4gb fit a 4.7gb dvd ?.


Yes, of course it will. With 2.3Gb to spare!

As a third party DVD burner, you can try Power2Go8 for free and see how it works for you:

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/power2go/overview_en_US.html?&r=1 ~Tom~
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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File size means very little when it comes to video on a DVD. Some people will argue with this but I find it to be true.

At the best quality (that is what we all want, isn't it), you can get about one hour on a single layer DVD; more for a DL DVD.

You can get about 1:45 or a little more on a single layer DVD at a resolution that looks crappy. How crappy is in the eyes of the beholder.

The difference is in the bit rate of the video. Some program set the bit rate automatically; some allow you to manually set the bit rate.

If you want to get more, you may have to go to something like a DivX or XVid format wich is highly compressed but still good quality. You can get several hours on a single layer DVD.

IS this enough?

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andybaz [Avatar]
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Hi Steve K, i am currently well pleased with ULEAD as i can edit save and burn up to 2hours video no problem, but it the finesse of being able to add a nice menu page is why i have gone with PD10.

Think you have hit the nail on the head there ..... 'bit rate' I assuming that i can access this bitrate within PD10 and alter, any idea which way i alter ? ... increase or decrease etc.

divX - XVid ? are these extra programmes wit in PD10 ? Sorry for such simple questions, yes im new to this product, been using ULEAD for about 6 months now, and using PD10 for about 1 month.

With ULEAD, i make my video's, save then using DVDFLICK to burn them as i was finding windows dvd maker wouldnt burn the larger 1.75hr footages. DVDFLICK has a couple of templates but no good for what i want to do.

Keep your views coming friends, much appreaited , cheers andy windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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For quality from the help menu:
Video and Audio Settings

· Select the video recording format: if available for your selected disc format, select the recording format of the video on your disc and its aspect ratio.

· Select the video encoding format and quality: if available for your selected disc format, select an encoding format and video quality for your disc. The Smart Fit option automatically adjusts the bitrate to the best quality video file that fits exactly to the capacity of the disc you are using.

· Select the audio encoding format and channels: select an audio format for your disc, and the number of channels it is capable of outputting to. If burning a DVD, Blu-ray Disc, or AVCHD disc, you can select Dolby Digital to create a disc with Dolby Digital 2 or 5.1 surround sound. If burning a Blu-ray Disc, you can also select DTS to have CyberLink PowerDirector use the DTS 5.1 Producer to create a disc with DTS 5.1 surround sound.

Note: the video quality and audio type options that are available depend on the disc format that you have selected.

Please don't discuss any other manufacturer;s software here. People either already know about other software or don't care. The purpose of this forum is to help people with this software.

Yes, DivX and Xvid are separate programs and require a DVD player that will play those formats. Google for more information. .
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andybaz [Avatar]
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Point taken, i will continue to experiment with this, thanks to all who have taken the time to comment windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
jerrys
Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline
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As I was told when I had a similar issue, SmartFit adjusts the quality of the whole video to a fixed level. When the pros fit an entire movie onto a DVD, they use fancier stuff that varies the quality according what it thinks it can get away with at any given time.

SmartFit might give you worse results than you want. Jerry Schwartz
James Dotson
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Did you try my first suggestion? If so, was it not what you are looking for or did it not work? __________________________________
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andybaz [Avatar]
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i got that many bits of A4 paper lying round with what i did, wrote everything down, not sure if i eventually did what you said Jamie, but thank you anyway, i kept missing the produce option.

I have used video files imported into PD10, added to my time line, added a picture at the start complete with transition, added a tittle frame to the end all looking good , editing done ... into 'produce' option, settings - MPEG2, DVD SP, FVRTechnology & Dolby Digi 5.1 then 'start' etc for this test.

Then into 'create' ...... in create disc there are 4 tabs (content/menu/2D & 3D) - I missed the 'setting the video encoding format ... ' etc , now set at SP standard quality and the DVD disc symbol bottom corner of screen clearly showing well within burn / dvd space etc .

Next is to do complete process with PD from capture - edit - produce & create , there's a lot of nice things in this programme, just get use to the baisc 1st

Just need to bin all my notes and rewrite some simple notes to keep

Big THANK YOU to all who read and took the time to comment on this, cheers andy windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit
HalCon
Senior Contributor Location: Charlottetown, PEI Joined: Mar 01, 2008 10:36 Messages: 719 Offline
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Quote: editing done ... into 'produce' option, settings - MPEG2, DVD SP, FVRTechnology & Dolby Digi 5.1 then 'start' etc for this test.
Then into 'create' ......

Andy,

Just so you don't get more confusion when you have another problem in the 'Create Disc' module.

The produce step in the process is not necessary for a successful burn. When you have a project on the timeline(s) and then move into the 'Create Disc' module, PD uses what you have on the timelines to burn to disc or folder. It does not automatically use a file that you created in the 'Produce' module.

If you want to have PD use the file that you created in the 'Produce' module you have to either, clear the time line then add the newly created file to the tracks, or start a new project for the burn process (preferred method). Import the file you created and place it on the timeline.

Producing before going to the burn stage can give you an indication as to how the project will look when finished, and if the file is used on the timeline for the burn stage can reduce the amount of work your system has to do when creating the disc.

Hal

OS - Win11 Pro, Alienware R13, CPU - Intel Core I7-12700KF 12 CPUs), 16g DDR5 4400 RAM, Video - Geeforce RTX 3080ti 12g, PD11 & PD365
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