Keeping Titles/tracks below in sync as I trim track 1

UnlikelySalsero

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Jun 05, 2012 03:29

I'm making great progress learning about PD 10. I've also had some excellent feedback in this forum, so I'm hoping I'm just blind to something that is obvious to others.

I haven't been able to find the ability to keep ALL tracks in sync if I trim Track 1 (Video + Audio).

I have the preferences set to "Link all tracks when inserting/removing content on the timeline".
This works great, and if I trim some video, it moves all the segments to the right IN THE SAME TRACK as expected, closing the gap from my trimmed segment AND moving all segments to the left, keeping them all linked as before.

In other words, the trim acts like "remove and close gap" for the audio and video in tracks 1.

That's exactly what I want PLUS, I'd like the tracks BELOW (content on tracks 2 plus audio track below that) to ALSO move to the left IF I trim the video in track 1.

Details:

Track 1: Camera video + audio: 13 segments, back to back on timeline, with minimum spacing (linked?)

Track 2 (video): Titles that display over my video ( I also tried them on the "title" line below, same behavior)
Track 2 (audio): External sound track I recorded on computer (via Audicity) when filming video, with high quality studio mics.

Audio track (background music track)

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Currently if I trim track 1, my titles on track 2 stay in place while my video moves to close the gap on my trimmed video.
But that means my title is now X frames to the right compared to before the trim. I do try to trim all segments in track 1 BEFORE adding titles, but more than once I've found a change later in the review process, and it's some extra steps to get everything back in sync.

Is there anyway lock the relative location, so if I trim the video, my titles also move to the left the same relative amount?

EDIT: If I Split the track, then I get the behavior I want. Is there any way to get the same behavior when I use the "Trim" window? Sometimes I want the option to add/remove 2 or 3 more frames later, and I don't think a split will allow that later.

All feedback, ideas and comments welcomed!

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Robert2 S

Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline

Jun 05, 2012 04:32

I don't use the trim function so sorry can't help you with that.

To achieve what you have mentioned above I use Multi-split.

1. I place the marker where I want to split the clip, then highlight that clip and all of the clips below it by dragging the mouse over everything then "multi split"

2. I then move the marker to the end of the part I want deleted and "Multi split" again. Then delete/remove the unwanted sections.

3. Regarding adding or removing 2 or 3 frames later you can....

1. Drag the numbers on the timeline out to the right as far as it will go, (or use the slider down the bottom left corner) this will get you down to frame level.

2. You can then either mulit split again one frame at a time, or highlight all of the tracks, move your curser to the end of track 1 until you get the double arrows and drag the clip in or out a frame at a time till you get it where you want. All of the highlighted tracks will be lengthened or shortened at the same time. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

babindia

Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline

Jun 05, 2012 08:44

You have lock the tracks to get it in sync PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

UnlikelySalsero

Newbie Joined: Apr 24, 2012 12:50 Messages: 45 Offline

Jun 06, 2012 23:46

Quote: You have lock the tracks to get it in sync

Do you mean if I lock all the tracks, I can still edit the video and it will keep all my relative spacing?

(I need to go read about locking tracks... I was thinking once a track was locked, it wouldn't allow any trim/split, etc.)

I'll check it out. PD 12 - 12.0.2930.0
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UnlikelySalsero

Newbie Joined: Apr 24, 2012 12:50 Messages: 45 Offline

Jun 06, 2012 23:47

Quote: I don't use the trim function so sorry can't help you with that.

To achieve what you have mentioned above I use Multi-split.

1. I place the marker where I want to split the clip, then highlight that clip and all of the clips below it by dragging the mouse over everything then "multi split"

<snip>

OK... I never explored multi-split, so now I will.

Thanks for the suggestion! PD 12 - 12.0.2930.0
Windows 8 (64 bit)
16 GB RAM

UnlikelySalsero

Newbie Joined: Apr 24, 2012 12:50 Messages: 45 Offline

Jun 07, 2012 02:38

Quote: You have lock the tracks to get it in sync

I must be missing something on this one.

Once I lock the tracks, I no longer have the trim, split, modify options...

I also tried locking all the other tracks (other than my primary video) and when I snip off a half dozen frames from the unlocked, it leaves the locked tracks in place.

So far it does work when I use the split function, so that is great at the end of my segments. (Assuming all tracks are unlocked.)

All suggestions welcomed.

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jerrys

Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline

Jun 07, 2012 21:19

I think this might be what you're looking for: there's an editing preferences option that will keep the various tracks linked as you edit.

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UnlikelySalsero

Newbie Joined: Apr 24, 2012 12:50 Messages: 45 Offline

Jun 08, 2012 04:07

Quote: I think this might be what you're looking for: there's an editing preferences option that will keep the various tracks linked as you edit.

See the attached.

Jerry,

Thanks for the response.

I do have that checked. It works within the existing track, but ignores the ones below in many editing cases (depends on what you do...)

In other words, when I edit the video on track 1, with this option enabled (checked), it does NOT adjust the tracks below.

Multi-edit is close, but there are cases where it doesn't do what I'd expect either.

If I figure it out I'll let you know what I find.

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