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garylloyd1212 [Avatar]
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I can't believe I'm forced to crank up Movie Maker whenever I need a title or DVD menu because the Power Director titles and menus are so useless.

I need generic titles and menus that look professional not all the Hollywood rip-off and gamer-inspired titles and menus.

Who but a 13-year-old uses the MGM logo in his DVD menus?

The user generated stuff is awful, but that's to be expected.

What's not expected is Cyberlink has no decent default stuff.

And combing through the hundreds of user submitted stuff is not an option. PD should come with quality defaults -- just the way the FREE Movie Maker does! -- but doesn't.

Nothing.

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So find a different product, and stop insulting people. Gateway DX4380, AMD A8-5500 Quad Core 3.2GHz with ATI Radeon HD 7560D; 16GB RAM; 1 TB SATA 7200 RPM; Windows 8 Pro 64-bit; PDR11, PDVD12.
ynotfish
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G'day Gary -

Far from disagreeing with you, I've held the same view since starting with PD7 - especially about titles. I've taught 8-9 year olds who could format text in a more "adult" way.

Personally, I never use any of the installed titles or DVD menus.

On the other hand, once you get you head around formatting your own, PD does allow you to produce quite professional looking titles & menus. Of course, it has its limitations but it depends what you're after.

Here's a little side by side titling comparison I made... http://youtu.be/GNX_Dfe3G0s

Could you provide a link to or screenshots of something you'd consider to be "professional"? Perhaps upload one to DirectorZone & post the link here?

Cheers - Tony
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1Nina
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Hi Gary,

Insulting (?) or not ;
the default options all round have been discussed many times before, especially the titles.
The fact seems to be that CL wants it this way, relying on the user submitted
stuff to be what a lot of people want.....
I do not use the dvd production myself, but I believe there’s possibilities to
tweak things in there.
Try a search, and see what you can find.
Also, some of the members here use different software for menus and burning.

Yep, there’s Tony – he will give you pointers

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CubbyHouseFilms
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline
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Hi Gary

Welcome to the volunteer forum

Granted, the preset DVD Menus are; at the best, quite useless

However; PD does allow the user to 'make' Custom menus, a great option if you do not want the Monopoly Board

Happy editing Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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CubbyHouseFilms
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Hi Gary

Maybe you would like to make some of your own suggestions on this thread:

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/22604.page Happing editing

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James1
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Hi,
As a novice user of Power Director for hobby work and amusement I love the program. I create my own Backgrounds, Menus and objects, frames that match the theme i am working on.
It takes time and some imagination on your part tho'. If you don't want to have something original that you create fine go with Movie Makers point and click and have a menu 'Production' that is not your design...I would rather have a finished video that I created by myself.
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garylloyd1212 [Avatar]
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Quote: Hi,
As a novice user of Power Director for hobby work and amusement I love the program. I create my own Backgrounds, Menus and objects, frames that match the theme i am working on.
It takes time and some imagination on your part tho'. If you don't want to have something original that you create fine go with Movie Makers point and click and have a menu 'Production' that is not your design...I would rather have a finished video that I created by myself.
Jim


The question isn't PD vs Movie Maker, the question is why doesn't PD have any native/default Text and DVD menu choices as simple, useful, and beautiful as Movie Maker.

babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Did you not try directorzone where umpteen templates are uploaded. Atleast few may be to your palate

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Gary -

Is this not simple, useful & beautiful? http://directorzone.cyberlink.com/detail/153239

I'd still be interested to see some examples of menus or titles you think are OK. As Jim says, PD allows you much more scope to format your own.

Since you're raising comparisons, see how you'd go doing this in WMM... (this was my first shot at this & no - I know it's not simple, useful & beautiful) http://youtu.be/vOCG8PbBHM0
Cheers - Tony

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Quote: Gary -

Is this not simple, useful & beautiful? http://directorzone.cyberlink.com/detail/153239

I'd still be interested to see some examples of menus or titles you think are OK. As Jim says, PD allows you much more scope to format your own.

Since you're raising comparisons, see how you'd go doing this in WMM... (this was my first shot at this & no - I know it's not simple, useful & beautiful) http://youtu.be/vOCG8PbBHM0
Cheers - Tony


I've already seen the menu you mention above and it's useless. Here's a u-tube showing wmm menus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj_xv1fyQjY

The menus are smart, tasteful, and professional -- entirely unlike the childish, gamer-inspired menus you get with PD.

And I'm not the least bit interested in learning how to make custom menus. I just think a app that bills itself as the best around should at least offer quality menus I can get for free from wmm.

Likewise titles. Who on earth uses the garish, clownish titles in PD?

Meanwhile, in wmm, the titles are again simple and tasteful.

check it out yourself in wmm.

Pissed, yeah, I'm pissed. I'm getting all my titles and menus from wmm and in fact would probably dump PD entirely if there was a way to get an old version of wmm on my machine instead of the windows live version.
ynotfish
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OK - fair enough.

No - it's OK - I've used WMM & WMML. I have no need to check it/them out further. Thanks anyway.

Sorry to hear you're not interested in learning how to do things for yourself - that's OK.

Cheers - Tony

P.S. Getting hold of the WMM 2.6 is easy.
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Quote: OK - fair enough.

No - it's OK - I've used WMM & WMML. I have no need to check it/them out further. Thanks anyway.

Sorry to hear you're not interested in learning how to do things for yourself - that's OK.

Cheers - Tony

P.S. Getting hold of the WMM 2.6 is easy.



Installing wmm on win 7 is not easy. There are entire forums devoted to this and none of the solutions work on my machine.
http://movies.blainesville.com/2010/05/installing-windows-movie-maker-60-on.html#comment-form
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Works fine here (WMM6 - 64bit). No problem installing or running.

Good luck - Tony
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Quote: Works fine here (WMM6 - 64bit). No problem installing or running.

Good luck - Tony


Great.

Can I come over and use your machine?

I'd take the red eye from Kennedy and be there in the morning.
babindia
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Garylloyd1212

In all the posts I have noticed you have vented frustration though many users like Tony endeavoured to help you with the problem.

From you posts I infer that you are not inclined to accept the suggestions or workarounds.

If you still feel that PD10 is not meeting your minimum expectations it would be wise if you seek a refund
and move to something which will make you happy.

All of us are like "you", a user, who have come here to seek and help each other.

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Quote: Garylloyd1212

In all the posts I have noticed you have vented frustration though many users like Tony endeavoured to help you with the problem.

From you posts I infer that you are not inclined to accept the suggestions or workarounds.

If you still feel that PD10 is not meeting your minimum expectations it would be wise if you seek a refund
and move to something which will make you happy.

All of us are like "you", a user, who have come here to seek and help each other.

Thank you
Babdi



Who died and appointed you God?
garylloyd1212 [Avatar]
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In wmm I can get 10 quality titles or menues with the click of keystroke.

In PD I have to wade through hundreds of user submitted gunk after which I find nothing.

One app is free the other costs $90.

Guess which one that is?

babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Gary
It was your choice that you bought PD-10.We did not ask you. You should have tested the trial version,asked the question which you are asking now before you bought.

There is no God here. We are all like you,I guess,perhaps a bit saner

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1Nina
Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline
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Gary,
stop here- while you can.
My guess is that you’ll be wiped out from the forum anyway.
There’s nothing wrong with WMM. Stick with it for the time being.
I understand you’re upset about the money spent. Try getting a refund.
Tony spent some time trying to help you on the way. Please, read his posts again,
and disguard the rest of us.
I suspect you thought buying PD10 would make a “flashier” video easier to produce.
And why wouldn’t you. When reading the adds it seems simple.
Well, for most of the stuff we are bombarded with,, adds are one thing, reality another.
Get a refund, Gary, and come back another time. It would be nice to watch your work.

Nina

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