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Volume increments of 10% and it can't be changed? This isn't good.
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I submitted a Support Ticket about this on March 12th, and so far I have gotten nowhere with them.

I upgraded from PowerDVD 8 to PowerDVD 12, and there is only one thing I don't like about it: when adjusting the volume using either the keyboard or the mouse (I strongly prefer the keyboard), the volume always adjusts in 10% increments and it cannot be changed. For my setup, this is definitely not user-friendly in the least bit. I need the ability to quickly make minor volume adjustments (a 1% increment would be ideal). For me, an increment of 10% is a "major" adjustment. PowerDVD 8 uses an increment of 2% which matches the increment I get everywhere else in Windows. This means that PowerDVD 12 is a major disappointment for me.


Did you check your settings, TwoCables? What did Tech Support say?
Before I contacted customer service, I went through all of the Settings "with a fine-toothed comb", so to speak, just to make sure I didn't miss anything (which is what I do anyway for anything I install). After spending a long time going through the Settings over and over, I then checked the files for any .ini or .cfg files just in case the increment could be adjusted there (I looked in every folder that would contain them, including AppData folders). I then proceeded to the Registry, but still I came up empty.

After having to repeat myself 3 times to Tech Support, they finally said "currently we are not having any option to do some setting for the volume in powerDVD as well as in registry."

Sigh. Seriously? This is an expensive product! Was it really so difficult to include a section in the Settings where the increment could be adjusted to be whatever the user wants it to be? Was it necessary to force all of us to be stuck at 10%? Would it really be that hard to release a patch that satisfies this?


Then just go back to PowerDVD 8. Problem solved, right?
I cannot go back to PowerDVD 8 because I had obnoxious playback issues that can only be resolved by going back to WinXP. I have Win7 now. At this point, I am ready to request my refund and just settle for dealing with Windows Media Player 12 because it does not have those playback issues. In fact, I tested playback in WMP 12 before buying PowerDVD 12. I don't like using WMP 12 at all, but upon discovering that it has no playback issues, I figured I would try PowerDVD 12 just to see if this is all I need to do. When I discovered that I can request a refund for my digital purchase of PowerDVD 12, I felt free to go ahead with my purchase. After all, I was only interested in testing it at that point. Fortunately, PowerDVD 12 does not have these playback issues; but unfortunately, the volume increment is at a whopping 10% and cannot be changed.



I have three reasons for posting this:

1. To hopefully serve as a feature request. That is, we need an area in the Settings where we can choose any volume increment percentage that we want.
2. To see if anyone else feels the same way
3. To see if someone knows how to hack PowerDVD 12 and change the volume increment to be whatever we want it to be.

If this unchangeable 10% volume increment doesn't bother you, then that's a very good thing! However, please don't spend your valuable time posting a reply just to tell me that it doesn't bother you because that would not be helpful at all.


I thank you for your time, and I thank you for reading this.
Ben Ryves [Avatar]
Member Joined: May 06, 2009 19:03 Messages: 61 Offline
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This bothers me too. The +/- buttons in Cinema mode change the volume in 1% increments, so it is internally inconsistent too.

Edit: That's clicking on the buttons marked + and - with the mouse, not pressing +/- on the keyboard.

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Quote: This bothers me too. The +/- buttons in Cinema mode change the volume in 1% increments, so it is internally inconsistent too.

Edit: That's clicking on the buttons marked + and - with the mouse, not pressing +/- on the keyboard.

Thank you for your support!
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I have 9 days left to request my refund. If I have no indication about what is to be done about this by then, then I'll go ahead and request it. I would much rather deal with Windows Media Player 12 than this.

I have so far gone back and forth with Tech Support 4 times about this and have gotten nowhere. I've been waiting for 10 days now for them to reply to my latest message (and I was clear I wanted one). So needless to say, Cyberlink is giving me quite a bad impression. As of right now, it seems like they couldn't possibly care less about increasing this product's user-friendliness.

Are Ben and I the only two people who care about this?
Ben Ryves [Avatar]
Member Joined: May 06, 2009 19:03 Messages: 61 Offline
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I had a go at working around the issue myself using AutoHotkey. You will need to download AutoHotkey_L and the Vista Audio Control Functions script. The following should be saved in a file with a .ahk extension in the same directory as VA.ahk:



Alternately, download the zip archive attached to this post as that contains both script files - unzip it somewhere and double-click PreciseVolume.ahk to go.

The script overrides the keyboard's volume buttons globally to change the volume in 1% steps (change the VolumeStep = n line at the top to change the step size) and overrides -/= and the number pad -/+ when in PowerDVD.

Unfortunately, the script doesn't completely work for me as AutoHotkey doesn't support my Dell multimedia keyboard's volume knob (the APPCOMMAND_VOLUME_xxx messages come through with GET_DEVICE_LPARAM(lParam) returning FAPPCOMMAND_OEM instead of FAPPCOMMAND_KEY and I suspect AutoHotkey only supports FAPPCOMMAND_KEY) but the volume buttons on my wireless mini-keyboard work fine.
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PreciseVolume.zip
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PreciseVolume AutoHotkey script
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Thank you, Ben! I may give this a try.

I hope this wakes Cyberlink up. I mean wow, for the price they're charging for this product, we shouldn't have to be doing this. They should have said "Let's set it to 10%, but let's also include user-friendly options in the Settings area for the user to customize it any way they want."

All I can hope now is that someone at Cyberlink sees this and recognizes just how little sense this change to their product makes.



Edit: On second thought, I might just get Corel WinDVD 11.

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Ben Ryves [Avatar]
Member Joined: May 06, 2009 19:03 Messages: 61 Offline
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Corel WinDVD 11 is not an option for me as it doesn't support 3D output on Vista, so I'd still like to find a better fix for this. The AutoHotkey workaround works well enough for the time being, however.
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I tried the free trial of WinDVD Pro 11, and it is better than PowerDVD 12 for me in this respect.

It has a completely independent volume control from the System Volume, meaning that adjustments made to WinDVD's volume do not adjust the System Volume. The same is true the other way around: adjustments made to the System Volume do not adjust WinDVD's volume.

In other words, it's exactly like Windows Media Player in this regard. It's kind of like a "set it and forget it" kind of volume control. It's like having computer speakers that have a volume knob, but having a preference for only adjusting the volume in the operating system, meaning the knob on the speakers is never touched - set it and forget it.

WinDVD's volume goes from 0 to 50. For me, 25 is a nice happy medium because it enables me to have pretty much my entire full range of volume from extremely quiet all the way to "too loud". So I leave it at 25 and adjust my volume using the buttons on my keyboard which only adjusts my operating system's volume without touching the volume I set in WinDVD. It's slick!

In other words, I think I will be requesting my refund after all unless Cyberlink cares enough to do something to stop me. Although, it is obvious to me that they couldn't possibly care less about what we think of their products, so I say "screw 'em". I'm not going to keep a product that cost me $53.38 when it's worth more like $9.99. Corel is charging the same price for WinDVD 11 ($49.99), so it doesn't make sense to me to let Cyberlink keep my money for this inferior product.

Not only that, but there are other things about WinDVD 11 that are better than PowerDVD 12 for me, so it's not just this volume increment thing.

I guess I am officially done with Cyberlink as a whole. I gave them an easy chance for a home run with me and yet they still struck out. I used to be impressed by them, but those days are over.
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