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SVRT and mov video - experiment/test
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Hi members who have mov files.

Please can you test your mov files for me by carrying out the following?

1. Open PD10
2. Place your mov file into track one
3. Display SVRT Track (right click in tracks and "Show SVRT Track")
4. Select View and select "SVRT Information"
In my test I used 2D, full HD 1080p
5. In the Standard 2D tab, what profile is being offered?
6. In my test I have an Best Quality MPEG4 Profile displaying - what displays for you?
OK, What does that mean to me... it means the mov is being read as an mpeg4. I have a "green" SVRT line = video rendering not required.
7. Select Produce
8. Select MOV and SVRT is greyed out.
9. Select MPEG-4 and SVRT is available, and in my case with the Default selection.

I would like to know if other mov files have the same results please?

Thank you

Dafydd

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1. Open PD10
2. Place your mov file into track one
3. Display SVRT Track (right click in tracks and "Show SVRT Track")

In mine Green line

4. Select View and select "SVRT Information"
In my test I used 2D, full HD 1080p

In mine AVC 1920 x 1080 60p (28 Mbps )

5. In the Standard 2D tab, what profile is being offered?

.AVI

6. In my test I have an Best Quality MPEG4 Profile displaying - what displays for you?
OK, What does that mean to me... it means the mov is being read as an mpeg4. I have a "green" SVRT line = video rendering not required.
7. Select Produce
8. Select MOV and SVRT is greyed out.

In mine Yes

9. Select MPEG-4 and SVRT is available, and in my case with the Default selection.

In Mine NO

I would like to know if other mov files have the same results please?
djmorgan
Senior Member Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Oz. Joined: Mar 09, 2007 07:07 Messages: 233 Offline
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MOV file from my Canon 5DMkII

Red bar advising rendering is needed

Custom profile is shown 1920x1080 clip shown as MPEG4 Baseline Profile.

Yes in produce .MOV SVRT is greyed out when selected mpeg4 SVRT available.

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Hi abslayer ,
Thank you for your input. What was the source video from please?

Hi David,
Thank you. It does appear that mpeg4 is the output route if you can/want SVRT from mov footage.

Not all MOV are SVRT/Mpeg4 compatible, some really big bitrates from DSLR's.

Dafydd

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djmorgan
Senior Member Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Oz. Joined: Mar 09, 2007 07:07 Messages: 233 Offline
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I concur, what I also found interesting that adding say 4 clips from the same camera source shot on the same day and after each other produced slightly differing bitrates.

But then PD10 gives the option to select one for all clips. as I'm playing around with DivX right now will come back to this and investigate further

David Windows 7 X64 SP1
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From Panasonic HDC-TM900 to desk top and then into PD 10

I did install Media Codec Pack KNOW as (( AVIVO PACKAGE )) after running this test

And now answer 9. Select MPEG-4 and SVRT is available, and in my case with the Default selection.

Is YES
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Clips tested from Canon 500D, Canon 5DMkII & Canon 7D - same resaults for all

1. SVRT view = Red (rendering needed)
2. Profile offered is MPEG-4 1920x1080 (bitrate varied with camera sample)
3. No SVRT available for MOV production, but YES for MPEG-4

Cheers - Tony
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CubbyHouseFilms
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline
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Quote: Clips tested from Canon 500D.

1. SVRT view = Red (rendering needed)
2. Profile offered is MPEG-4 1920x1080 (bitrate varied with camera sample)
3. No SVRT available for MOV production, but YES for MPEG-4

Cheers - Tony


Hi Dafydd

Identical to Tony using the Canon 500D Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Thank you everyone for posting your findings.

On another test/experiment for those who have multiple cameras. I wonder if a mixed source file test can be carried out.
For example I see that Tony has a "Canon 500D, Canon 5DMkII & Canon 7D" and I wonder what the results would be if their source files were mixed. Would SVRT apply to a mixture of video files from these camera?

Many editors have multiple cameras and I wonder what the SVRT results are for the different pairing? For example will Sony's or Panasonic's range produce SVRT footage for which pair or more cameras? Will a mixture of cameras allow SVRT and which cameras pair up well for SVRT to be of use?

I have a wide range of samples and will have a go at seeing what I can come up with. In the meantime I would love to see what results members come up with.

Thank you once again everyone.

Dafydd

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Hi,
I'm carrying out the SVRT inter-compatibility tests and I've hit a "stone wall" when it comes to the high end Canons 5 and 7 clips. The video samples I have are 44mbps and 46mbps and will not accept mp4/SVRT at those bitrates. Intelligent SVRT doesn't provide any custom (white text) profiles. The 44mbps and 46mbps bitrate is outside the SVRT range.

I know PD 10 may be throwing me off... but I cant replicate the mp4 acceptance reported above for these cameras.

I await the "look Dafydd" lecture with a broad smile but I cant get these blighters to accept SVRT as is reported above. Any input is welcome.

Dafydd

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Dafydd -

You're probably getting exactly what I got, I'd say. The text in the SVRT panel is red - not white. I've probably reported incorrectly.

I've attached a screenshot. Sorry if I made a blunder & misrepresented the facts.

Cheers - Tony
[Thumb - MOV Tests.png]
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MOV Tests.png
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7D & 5D MkII SVRT
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Thank you Tony for the clarification... caused a hair pulling moment or two at this end.
Dafydd



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