Need for tutorial DVD's for new users

Grayfox72

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Jan 27, 2012 19:16

Yes, there are some videos that show how to use some of the features of PD10 but this is not what is needed for new users to learn video editing. PD10 is a powerful program with great features. But I ask this question of the software designers and product marketing people: Take a new person who knows absolutely NOTHING about Video editing, and sit down with this person without saying a single word, and watch them go about trying to download a video home movie. Then watch them as they try to navigate the editing and producing of their video. You will get the point that I am trying to make real fast.

You need to think outside of the box and make a SUPERIOR product for EVERYONE, especially new users? To accomplish this, make a series of DVD's that are tailored to each step in the process of using PD10 in concert with a work book that allows the student/new user to practice as they learn, one step at a time.

This process will work because students can take their time, and practice each new step until they have learned the process. We do this in industry, and have done so for years.

Just think of how many new SATISFIED customers you will have for this and other products with just a little effort outside the box. I have seen videos online where people have tried using U-Tube to demonstrate features of this product and others as well. Most are terrible, they go too fast for a new user to know what is going on so they give up.

If you really want to be CUSTOMER focused, especially new users, then give this a try, I know this will work.

Regards,

Dick

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Grumpy

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Jan 27, 2012 19:25

Hi

I feel your pain. 8 years ago I got into editing and sat down with another program and tried to make some headway. After a very long day I didn't touch the editor again for months. I eventually did give it another go and found that I could accomplish something productive. A few more hours and the anxiety subsided and I began to enjoy it.

Because video is a visual experience I need to visually see what needs to be done and how to navigate. I didn't understand terminology and so didn't know how to find it using the help feature.

I agree, all video editing programs should have a step by step video available to at least get your clips off your camera, onto the timeline, trim them, put some titles on it and render a completed movie.

I have only really got serious with Power Director and once I feel competent in it I will create a beginners step by step how to.

BTW if their is some basic questions you have you can post them of PM me. I'll do what I can to help.

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gladys

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Jan 27, 2012 19:37

It does not have to be a DVD a manual will be great, I am new at editing video, I am able to see the video but have not been able to edit it

James1

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Jan 27, 2012 19:43

Hi,
I agree with what you are saying, but I find that quite a few new members to video editing are trying to edit video with computers that haven't the resources for video editing, especially hi def videos. These people have to first learn what the video editing program requires for processing power and memory requirements before they purchase it and find out the computer they have can't handle video editing in HI DEf.
Or that when a member here asks for specific information and gives a link to the post that specifies and details the way to obtain the requested information then doesn't follow the instructions.
And they must NOT hijack another "saying I have the same problem....' but don't give the information on there systems.
Jim
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Grayfox72

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Jan 27, 2012 20:00

Thank you Richard,Gladys and Jim for your replies. A few added comments:
JIM: I built my present computer a year ago, it has a quad processor (Intel i7 ), 6 GB Ram, 1 TB HD and another 1TB as backup, and an XFX Radeon HD 8450 Video card.

I have downloaded one Analog tale so far from my older 8MM camera, and made two DVD's that played OK on my DVD player. This was very basic just to see how things work, no real editing.

My problem right now is, I don't know what I am doing with time lines etc for editing, I need to learn what does what.

I have downloaded and printed out both the Users Manual and the book on editing. I need to see, then try, then understand what each thing does. That is how "I" learn. I hope that the combination of me trying after repeatedly reading the books, will lead to gradual understanding without complete frustration.

A teaching video, without language dialects ( no insult intended ) would be a GREAT time saver as well as prevent meltdowns. LOL Attitude + Behavior = Performance

Grumpy

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Jan 27, 2012 20:06

I learn real fast if I have someone watching me and answering questions as I go.

If I have to decipher instructions and hope I have clicked where I need to click and hopefully not miss a step, it takes me much longer.

I'd be willing to help where i can. I have a good understanding of linear editing (timeline). Richard

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gladys

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Jan 27, 2012 20:48

Still, I am not any further, I d/l the test version, unless I figure how to use the prg I will not buy it

James1

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Jan 27, 2012 21:23

Hi,
Well I learn by doing then asking questions from the form members here and try and include an example of my intentions. I just got into video editing late last year. I start with small projects and an idea then work form there, I don't jump in with a hour and a half video and try and fumble through with a large project.
I do agree that there needs to be a Structured set of videos, in a sequential form from initial Project compilation to the finished disc Creation.
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Grayfox72

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Jan 27, 2012 23:31

Do you think that Cyberlink will react to this request? It is a good project for some summer college help.

Jim: your method is certainly the best way to learn at present without people standing with us as Richard has suggested which obviously would be great.

In the meantime, I will certainly rely on this forum for help with any questions that I might have and there certainly will be many.

One question that I have for starters is: my Analog tapes when Captured said that I had recorded 25 GB into PD10. As my blank DVD has 4.7 GB of space, I set the parameters to 4.6 GB for the first DVD burn, it came out fine. When I tried to get the second DVD burned, I set the marker at the end of the first burn in editor, but something goofed up and I was only copying part of the remaining video onto the 2nd DVD. I have to check on what I was doing wrong. Attitude + Behavior = Performance

CubbyHouseFilms

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Jan 27, 2012 23:45

Hi Dick

I agree with you entirely

The assumption is that everyone is a video editing expert

However, there are lots of resources out there to assist the video editor.

There are literally hundreds of tutorials on Youtube. Cyberlink even have there own channel!

There are intermediate tutorials at the start of the PD10 at the top of the page posted by the Moderator.

However, two of my favourites are the absolute beginner 'toots' posted on the PDToots channel on Youtube.

They are using PD8 in these tutorials but the basics are the same for PD10

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/user/PDtoots#p/u/9/jXG2jDTHyKw

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/PDtoots#p/u/8/ccSNU_Z7BRc

Happy editing - enjoy PowerDirector - sure it has it's quirks but it is really good.

Happing editing

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James1

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Jan 28, 2012 00:42

Hi Neil,
I know that and some of the other members know about the tutorials (which I have gone to many times) but a 'Newbie' wouldn't associate previous version tutorials also can be applied to the latest version unless directed to it by the forum. If you have just purchased Pd10 and go to tutorial section PD10 tutorials are displayed not all versions unless you expand your search, and the tutorials are not in a linear sequence as was originally posted so you can follow along as the beginner progress' in his/her 'Project' if you follow what we mean.
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CubbyHouseFilms

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Jan 28, 2012 01:01

Hi Jim

I get what you mean.

I suggested to CL about a year ago a link to a series of tutorials from beginner through to advance in an easy to follow numbered format but as almost always it was ignored.

There are some very good tutorials on this forum but as you say you need to understand all features in PD before you can start your first project - hence the PDToots begineer tutorials.

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Jan 28, 2012 10:07

I know how a new person feels. I got a DV camera a year or so after they cam out. Try to edited video and was getting nowhere. But one thing I was doing wrong was in windows we learn terms like cut,copy and paste. In video we need to learn terms like split, keyframes and so on. I would highlight a section of video in the time line that I want out and say cut. The hole video track was gone from the timeline. Then one day I seen the split command. So I started playing the video track watch it in the preview window I would pause the play back to where I wanted to take out a section of video. Then I would move the cursors to the timeline where the line moves a long on where it at on the video track and do the split command. Then I would hit play and let it go the where the end of that part of the video I wanted edited out pause it and split. The hightlight that area I want out than remove and I was on my why to editing video.

Then you can staeet playing with transitions and makeing title screens. I hope this helps.

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Jan 28, 2012 11:06

I am trying to convert VHS to DVD I am trying to edit the video once I transfer to my Computer, the editing is not easy

Grayfox72

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Jan 28, 2012 11:46

I will check out some of those items you have listed Neil, I certainly have not taken a look at all of them yet, I got a little discouraged when viewing some of them because they were so badly done, voices were up and down in volume, and they had not scripted what they had intended to show, not very professional at all. I applaud their attempt, however when you are NEW at this game, you need PROFESSIONAL "how to" videos. I remember a looong time ago trying to learn MS spreadsheets. Then a gentleman came along with CD's and a work book, and I was off to the races. Why CL does not do this is beyond me, the CEO needs to LISTEN to his/her customers and REACT in a positive manner. THIS is the secret to a great company with happy customers, and happy customers will come back.

I will say that the people on this forum are just GREAT, very helpful, all of you get a BIG THANK YOU for your time and your patience and your helpful spirit. God bless you all , the world needs more people like you !!! Attitude + Behavior = Performance

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Jan 28, 2012 13:37

Hi Grayfox,
Well you have to take into consideration that some of the tutorials were done by forum members for the sake of beginners other Power Director users and made on there own time.
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Grayfox72

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Jan 28, 2012 14:10

hi Neil, I checked out PD Toots, they are done very well. The only problem that I had with them was; they move so fast at times that I had to keep backing up the video to see what they were doing. This gave me the distinct feeling that this video is for folks who have experience with PD already, and are comfortable with moving faster because they already know where all the controls and features are, and how they work. My comments were, " slow down, I can't move my eyes fast enough to keep up with your pointer". If you are trying to show me something that I don't know, give me chance to digest what I am seeing in Slooooow motion. Replay , pause, replay pause, tough way to learn. I will get there because I will stay with it, but there are enhancements that will make the process go much faster for new users. Attitude + Behavior = Performance

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Jan 28, 2012 14:20

That's the beauty of on-line videos, so easy to go over things, rewind, watch again. It's the nature of the beast. I've got a fair amount of experience, but I've been watching on-line tutorials about a 3D software, and I can't get it in one shot.
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Grayfox72

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Jan 28, 2012 14:29

Barry, I hope so at age 73, I don't have as much time remaining as a 21 year old kid.... LOL Attitude + Behavior = Performance

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Jan 28, 2012 16:50

Grayfox72,

You can download the tutorial video on Youtube using the Youtube Downloader HD

http://www.youtubedownloaderhd.com/

One tip, when you are watching a video, click on Share then Options and choose the long link.
Copy that link and paste into Youtube Downloader HD Video URL.

Youtube Downloader needs the long link to work.
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